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Jamie.M 09-24-2012 04:54 PM

framing question
 
When constructing a wall to accomodate a door can you nail the bottom plate on top of the hardwood floor or should the flooring be cut to secure the bottom plate to the subfloor? If yes, is it necessary to secure the hardwood once it has been cut with, e.g construction adhesive or other methods?

Thanks in advance.

Jamie

joecaption 09-24-2012 07:25 PM

You can go right over it.

mae-ling 09-24-2012 08:03 PM

YOU can but it is a lot easier to cut it now then later if you ever choose to remove the hardwood.

woodworkbykirk 09-24-2012 08:09 PM

removing the hardwood where the wall will sit also reduces the chance of the hardwood buckling if it swells from taking on excessive moisture

joecaption 09-24-2012 08:10 PM

A Toe Kick saw will remove the hardwood with no damage to the wall if need be later on.

Jamie.M 09-24-2012 08:13 PM

Is a toe kick saw similar to a multi tool?

should the cut hardwood pieces be secured to prevent them from loosening or lifting with movement or traffic?

mae-ling 09-24-2012 08:18 PM

True joe, but many homeowners do not have a toe kick saw.

hand drive 09-24-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie.M (Post 1016581)
When constructing a wall to accomodate a door can you nail the bottom plate on top of the hardwood floor or should the flooring be cut to secure the bottom plate to the subfloor? If yes, is it necessary to secure the hardwood once it has been cut with, e.g construction adhesive or other methods?

Thanks in advance.

Jamie

Hi, What is the length of the wall going to be ? Thanks

Jamie.M 09-24-2012 10:13 PM

39". I am closing off the end of a hallway and adding a 30" door to a bedroom.

ddawg16 09-25-2012 02:43 AM

I find it easier to cut the door frame....the saws are not expensive....and come in handy for other tasks....

Additionally....it's a lot easier to get a clean look if you cut the door frame vs cutting the hardwood around the door frame.

Jamie.M 09-27-2012 04:58 PM

Ok, i need the experts advice again.

32"x80" door needs a 34"x82" rough opening. I am installing this within a 39" hallway which only leaves me with 5". This will not allow for a king and jack stud on each side which would total 6". HELP!!!!

Is my only option to go to a 30" door?

ddawg16 09-27-2012 05:13 PM

Actually, your only short about 1/2". Your 32" door will most likely measure out to about 33 1/2".

Is your 39" hallway measurement including drywall?

Since this is a hallway....I personally would prefer the larger door....30" is getting pretty narrow.

Hopefully the experts will chime in....but if was me...I would take those jack studs and shave about 1/4" off each one with a table saw.

mae-ling 09-27-2012 05:42 PM

If the walls are not load bearing you do not need a header or jack studs.
Your 5" gives you 2.5" plus your gap and 1/2" onto your jamb for trim (casing). So if casing is 3" wide or less it should fit.
http://www.biytoday.com/ladderheader.jpg

Jamie.M 09-27-2012 05:42 PM

So you think the rough opening will only need to be 33.5"?

Yes, the hallway is 39" in width including the drywall. I suppose i could open the drywall to get the king in there which will give me the additional clearance needed without having the rip the jack stud. I just dont know if that will create any other issues!

mae-ling 09-27-2012 06:20 PM

There is no need to make it 33.5" make it the 34"
for your 2.5" sides use a 2x4 then a strip of 1/4" inch ply (rip to 3.5 or 3&3/8 whatever your studs are.) then a 1x4.


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