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Old 07-11-2011, 02:03 AM   #1
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Trying to estimate cost to excavate, install concrete foundation and basement, and fame out 2 stories of new construction to add on to existing home which is to be gutted.

The new construction will be a 20 x 30 in size and basically a box with a roof, and am trying to get a rough cost. What other information would be needed of me to get a quote?

Location is near Brooklyn, NY

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Old 07-11-2011, 05:41 AM   #2
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How about running the pipes and drains and also for the framing you would need to specify the type of framing ( truss roof/stick frame) fascia and soffit detail (trim and vent/sub fascia) how about pitch, stud height,windows,doors, how are you attaching it to the house? What kind of siding and how much is the framer going to have to strip? You pretty much need a print to get a quote. You'll need at least a simple one to get a permit anyway.

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Trying to estimate cost to excavate, install concrete foundation and basement, and fame out 2 stories of new construction to add on to existing home which is to be gutted.

The new construction will be a 20 x 30 in size and basically a box with a roof, and am trying to get a rough cost. What other information would be needed of me to get a quote?

Location is near Brooklyn, NY
I would get plans for a quote. Actually a few quotes.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:53 AM   #4
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I do have architectural plans, and I have bid it out to a few local gc's with good reputations, and so far the quotes (for the entire remodel job) have been a lot more than I had expected.

Originally Got quotes to gut and redo the existing structure without an addition, and cost was reasonable. Now with addition in the plans the costs have gone up unporportionally, and it doesn't make any sense. So I'm thinking to maybe hire out the subs myself and lose the gc. Is there anyone who has a punch list of sorts to help me plan out the many costs and steps and trades?

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I do have architectural plans, and I have bid it out to a few local gc's with good reputations, and so far the quotes (for the entire remodel job) have been a lot more than I had expected.

Originally Got quotes to gut and redo the existing structure without an addition, and cost was reasonable. Now with addition in the plans the costs have gone up unporportionally, and it doesn't make any sense. So I'm thinking to maybe hire out the subs myself and lose the gc. Is there anyone who has a punch list of sorts to help me plan out the many costs and steps and trades?

Many thanks.
Why don't you break it out separately for bids? If you have never done GCing before you are in for much much grief if you do it yourself. It will be like getting a new business off the ground, trying to find the good and reliable subs, the best costs, where to buy and when to have deliveries and when and which sub to call at the right time. You will have to carry insurance and make sure the subs have theirs. Not to mention you will have to be the one to tie up all the loose ends the subs leave including cleanup and dumpster details. There is much left off here but it will give you an idea. I tell you, it is a pain in the ole kazoo.
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So how do I get the most out of my gc, with the best price? Any tips?
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Getting a good set of plans and specs done is the #1 piece of getting the most out of your GC. The plans/specs are the contract. Without a coherent and comprehensive set of plans/specs, you will leave yourself open to alot of potential issues.
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Spell out what you want and don't want. Don't leave anything to be taken for granted. Make everything clear and in writing, leave no gray areas at all. Be specific with everything such as brand name, color and model etc (example such as) dish washer. You make the decisions what goes in to your build on the front end, not after the contract is signed. If you leave the decisions up to him he may be a cheap scape and go low end. Don't leave any open ends.

Keep changes down to zero, if possible, as this is an area for some contractors to make up if he under bid. Just know changes will run the costs up and fast, as there is tear out, wasted materials, most times, then rebuild. Have pay schedules agreed upon on the front end, in writing. DO NOT pay ahead for work that is not done. Make contractor produce proof that subs and venders are paid or you will have to pay them and they can put a lien on your home if the contractor doesn't pay them. Be clear who will do the clean up and when. Be sure he pays for dumpsters and johnny on the job. There is much I haven't covered including to be sure he produces all the insurance proof or you may be liable if someone gets hurt on your property.

I got carried away and forgot this was for framing not the whole thing. I am lazy so I won't go back and change what I wrote.
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Could you provide a rough sort of 'ball-park' figure of what you mean by a "rough cost"?

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A million dollars. But I'm pricey

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