are footings necessary?

ASC

Need help on footings for a foundation and also dealing with the frost line for this project?

Daniel Holzman

I am guessing you accidentally failed to post most of your message. Like what type of project are you considering? And what is your question?

ASC

We are doing an addition to the house 18x32. Constractor has the foam forms up for the concrete but no footings under it. Is this a red flag? Also the forms are not below the frost line.

gregzoll

Why do you think that they are not needed? What does the engineering and architect state on the plans, along with the local AHJ?

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ASC

I have very little knowledge on this. Contractor says he's worked without footings before with no problems. I assumed footings was the norm.

joecaption

First go back and add where you live to your profile.
A pored foundation with no footings and above the frost line around here would not pass.

Canarywood1

Footings are the norm,and at least 6 inches below the frost line is also.

Daniel Holzman

You need to go back to square one. When you bid the job, were there plans? If so, the contractor is obligated to follow them. If not, what possible basis was there for the contractor to bid the job? Did you simply ask the contractor to bid on constructing an addition with no plans? Lacking plans, how would you possibly know what you would end up with? The contractor could build anything.

A separate but related question is what code is the contractor obligated to build to, or do you live in an area with no building code? As for the narrow question of footings, codes always require a footing, typically the minimum size is specified in the code, whether reinforcing is necessary, how deep the footing needs to go, what type of soil it can be placed on, and the minimum strength of the concrete. If you do not understand much about building, you really need an architect or engineer to draw up plans for you before you bid and build the job, else you can get badly burned.

Joe Carola

Do you have blue prints and permits? Don't say you don't know and its up to the contractor because the permits should be in your window. You need inspections for footings anyway.

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ASC

Thanks for the help. Never thought about going back to the proposal. I did and it said "pour footings for addition."

gregzoll

Time to fire the idiot, and find a reputable contractor. Hope you have not paid them anything yet.

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COLDIRON

The proposal says that but what do the contract drawings show? Is there any depths shown on the drawings. And maybe the building inspector should be notified after all documents are checked carefully.

kwikfishron

OP is in North Dakota, there’s a very good chance that drawings, permits and inspections do not apply.

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