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Old 04-04-2013, 03:39 PM   #1
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I am drawing a floor plan for a house I want to build someday, and question I have is for second floor support. I have an open floor plan (kitchen/dinning/living room) and second floor has a balcony open to the living room below. (see attached pic) My question is if there is enough support for the balcony.
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Do you have a drawing that shows the location of the balcony?

Is that sketch the first floor?

I assume that sketch is a quick,not accurate ,rough draft----

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You can see the red lines inside the circle is where the balcony would be. All the red is a reference to the second floor, floorplan. This is accurate.
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How long is the span? From the left to the right of the stairs?

By the way----that door at the top of the starts is too close----must have a 3 foot langing at the top,before a door---
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19ft span. Thanks for the stair tip.
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That could be done with a laminated wood beam----
We have several members that have the knowledge to give you an idea of size--but yes,that can be done easily----
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Mike, actually if their building code is based upon the International Residential Code then the stairs are allowed without a landing, as long as the door does not swing over the stairs. See Section 311.7.5 of the 2009 IRC

R311.7.5 Landings for stairways. There shall be a floor or landing at the top and bottom of each stairway. A flight of stairs shall not have a vertical rise larger than 12 feet (3658 mm) between floor levels or landings. The width of each landing shall not be less than the width of the stairway served. Every landing shall have a minimum dimension of 36 inches (914 mm) measured in the direction of travel.

Exception: A floor or landing is not required at the top of an interior flight of stairs, including stairs in an enclosed garage, provided a door does not swing over the stairs.

this is common in my area, but Imf would need to verify with his local building department.
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So Mike as I was asking you are saying I do need to add a support beam? I wanted to know if I do need or not.
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That could be done with a laminated wood beam----
We have several members that have the knowledge to give you an idea of size--but yes,that can be done easily----
Assuming the joists are going top to bottom and the beam left to right, what is it going to bear on? the left side is the kitchen and the right has a door in the way. With all the open space and angled walls it is going to be a difficult house to frame.
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So Mike as I was asking you are saying I do need to add a support beam? I wanted to know if I do need or not.

I think you need to have the whole thing designed for you by someone who knows what they are doing.
Not just ask some throw-away question about one aspect of the project.
You may be in Calif. or you may be in Mississippi next to the coast or in Alaska with a 150 lb. snow load that will be affected in some way by the sizing of that beam.

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