Floor joist issue

ang115 · 01-03-2013, 11:26 AM

We had a hump in our floor and pulled up the subfloor to try and determine was was wrong. It appears that where the floor joist meet on the main beam they are not longer level but have raised up /\. The main beam appears to be level so I am wondering if outside walls perhaps settled over time. Home was built in 1980. I would like to know the best way to make this level again, just shave off the uneven joists or is there a better way? Photo attached
Thanks

joed · 01-03-2013, 11:30 AM

Outside sank?
Main beam raised? Someone cranked on the lally adjusters?
Joists sagged in center causing ends to tip up?
Built that way?
Need on site investigation to determine what happened

joecaption · 01-03-2013, 12:24 PM

Should be as simple as using a long level on the sub floor to see the floor runs low on the outside.
What's supporing the main beam?
Are there any shims under it?

**Gary in WA** · 01-04-2013, 05:17 PM

Add the code-required minimum blocking; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par025.htm

If the span is greater than 9' to the next bearing, they may be over-loaded; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par017.htm

Never narrow a joists depth.

Gary

joecaption · 01-04-2013, 05:26 PM

Sure does look like under sized joist and they could have at least over lapped them far further then they did.

**Gary in WA** · 01-04-2013, 07:09 PM

I agree, Joe. Problem is the joists start out straight, then because of under-sized, they sag (crown-down) over time. Seen this many times when tying in an addition (years later) past the existing exterior wall; either match the existing floor line (not level, but "dished") with the new exterior wall higher than level, or set it level and let the HO walk up-hill on the same incline they have sub-consciously grown used to over the years...point to show them before starting the project.

Gary
PS. The laps are not to code either, good catch; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...9_5_par026.htm

paintdrying · 01-04-2013, 09:12 PM

Boy, that is hard to look at. At this point I would plane down the higher "joist and cover it back up.

01-03-2013, 11:26 AM	#1
ang115 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Floor joist issue We had a hump in our floor and pulled up the subfloor to try and determine was was wrong. It appears that where the floor joist meet on the main beam they are not longer level but have raised up /\. The main beam appears to be level so I am wondering if outside walls perhaps settled over time. Home was built in 1980. I would like to know the best way to make this level again, just shave off the uneven joists or is there a better way? Photo attached Thanks Attached Thumbnails

01-03-2013, 11:30 AM	#2
joed Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Welland, Ontario Posts: 6,101	Floor joist issue Outside sank? Main beam raised? Someone cranked on the lally adjusters? Joists sagged in center causing ends to tip up? Built that way? Need on site investigation to determine what happened __________________ Do not PM with questions that can be asked in a forum. I will not respond.

01-03-2013, 12:24 PM	#3
joecaption Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hartfield VA Posts: 18,822	Floor joist issue Should be as simple as using a long level on the sub floor to see the floor runs low on the outside. What's supporing the main beam? Are there any shims under it?

01-04-2013, 05:17 PM	#4
Gary in WA Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8,843	Floor joist issue Add the code-required minimum blocking; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par025.htm If the span is greater than 9' to the next bearing, they may be over-loaded; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par017.htm Never narrow a joists depth. Gary __________________ Clothes taking longer to dry? Clean the dryer screen in HOT water if using fabric softener sheets. They leave a residue that impedes air-flow, costing you money. Clean the ducting in the last six months? 17,000 dryer fires annually!

01-04-2013, 05:26 PM	#5
joecaption Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hartfield VA Posts: 18,822	Floor joist issue Sure does look like under sized joist and they could have at least over lapped them far further then they did.

Floor joist issue