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Old 10-22-2011, 04:09 PM   #1
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So I'm refinishing my basement bathroom, and I remove the (partially rotten) drywall to find this. If you look at the pictures you can see the soleplate interrupted for the plumbing stack, but is way out of alignment on either side - nearly 1/2" out.

What's the best way to fix this? I REALLY don't want to take down the whole wall - the other side is a finished laundry room. I've thought about using 2x2's to shim out the whole wall, but that seems like a lot of work too!

I'm going to be putting up 1/2" durock/wonderboard for tiling on this wall and around the shower.

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Old 10-22-2011, 04:16 PM   #2
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Nail--staple or glue a shim there and call it good.

Get that toilet feed line secured---loose pipes are a no-no--

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Old 10-22-2011, 04:18 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply - definitely will fix the feed, it's on my list!

I had considered shimming it out to align, but it's going to make the whole wall out of plumb - the drywall I took down was a real hack job.
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You would do well to cut the nails on the studs and pull the studs forward--or sister in new straight ones.

A Sawsall blade laid on top of the bottom plate will make short work of the nails holding the studs in place.
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im with kwikfish. you have couple options there. you can snap a chalk line on the floor in front of hte plate say 2" in front to give you a reference line... then pull nail in the plate out and then move the bottom plate... measure the distance of hte plate away from the chalk line at the ends and where the bad section is.. pull the plate out from the concrete wall where its bad and measure to the chalk line.. when you have the same measurement all the way along simply re-fasten the sole plate down

or shim the wall in the bad section so you have a straight wall

simply cutting the studs loose and adjusting them doesnt fix the bill your plate is still out of kilter for which can create a problem both for drywall but trim as well
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With drywall attached to the other side of the wall I wouldn’t “move” anything unless correcting the other side is also in the plan.

I’d would pull a couple/three horizontal strings representing where I want the wall to be and do it all with custom ripped shims in this particular case.
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Also - don't forget to put nail/screw shields on the face of the framing -
to protect the pipes!

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if theres no room for play in the wall, just shim the bad section.. so the drywall will lay flat, use a long straight edge to run across the edges of all the studs. you can see how much you need to shim based on the gap between the bad studs and the straightedge
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I’d would pull a couple/three horizontal strings representing where I want the wall to be and do it all with custom ripped shims in this particular case.
The OP didn't sound like much of a custom shim ripper...so I'm thinking sistering is a much better way for novices to fix this issue.

One thing for sure, is that you're going to want to do something. That wall is off in the middle by half as much as the variation at the bottom where the studs are nailed to the sole-plate. Meaning, that if you're a half inch off at the bottom...you are a quarter inch off 4 feet up the wall, given that you have 8 foot walls.

Since you can't pull the studs out, shimming or sistering is your only option.

Me, I'm a sister-in kinda guy. I can have all the sisters in place, using string, a lot faster and with a lot less headache, and equal or better results, than messing around with trying to mark angles for shims for each stud, then cutting them, and then fitting them. If time doesn't matter...that way will work just as well for the OP.

The nice thing about sistering, for novices, is that it takes way less time...less tools, and works well. No tedious cuts...no cutting on the wrong side of the line, etc.

Pull a string from the left side of the wall...attached to the end stud...to the right side of the wall...attached to the other end stud...four inches from the top...do the same for the bottom. Now, slide in your sisters, make them flush with the strings...fasten in place...I'd use 3 inch screws.

I just took a look at your images again...you're gonna need four strings...two as mentioned above, and two others, one above the horizontal pipes and one below. You will have to cut your sisters to fit above and below the pipes...there will be a small void where the pipes are, as they are so close to the front of the studs...and that's where you can put in your protective plates...and that should be it.

This of course is if you like where you end studs are. If not, it's slightly more complicated.

Just my two cents...

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I was just reading through this thread for interest. What would you do in the sections where the sister studs were not plumb with the bottom plate? Shim the bottom plate? Leave 'em hangin'?

Thanks...in case I ever run into this stuation.
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Either way---A lot would depend on the size of the trim that is going in.
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exactly, my reasoning for mentioning trim is because if you shoot the baseboard to the sole plate thats back from the edge of the stud, the base can pull in at the bottom and not be tight to the drywall at the top
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I was just reading through this thread for interest. What would you do in the sections where the sister studs were not plumb with the bottom plate? Shim the bottom plate? Leave 'em hangin'?
Thanks...in case I ever run into this stuation.
Sure, you would want to fill the void...especially since the OP is going to put concrete board and tile on the wall. I would cut two shims...that meet in the middle and adapt as necessary. Easier than trying to fit an angled full length piece.

If the void was linear and you were going to trim it out, you could cut a simples straight shim or use nailing blocks...spaced every foot. In either case...the void should be filled.

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