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Old 03-30-2010, 08:25 PM   #31
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Just make sure you can build a deck that close to the property line
My area you need at least 15', some areas require more

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not sure how much of this thread you've seen, but would you have concerns about putting a deck like this on the patio (pictured above)? it was built in '93, appears to me to be in good shape.
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so after i find out about permits, have my plans, everything i read says i need to establish layout lines so that everything is square and i can mark where my posts go.


what is the best way to approach this when working on a patio like i am?

i was thinking i would put a screw into the concrete, tie a masons line and go from there. i can pull the string to a batter board that i place on the grass, beyond the patio. so on the outer two corners, away from the house, i can place batter boards. the two corners closest to the house will require a string attached to concrete or to the house.
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I dislike building with wood when I can put down patio stones/blocks
But it would be a pain to pull that concrete up & dispose of it
Other option would be to fill in the grass area & put patio stone down over the whole thing

I would build it free standing not attached to the house
I would attach it to the cement pad for stability
Just use a few L shape brackets secured to wood & pad

I'd also put PT 2x4's directly on the concrete, in a grid
The less room under the deck for critters the better
Add one post in the corner of the grass/dirt where needed
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i am in the planning phase of building a deck onto this concrete patio






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can you offer some tips about getting a square layout when working on a patio like i am?

i was thinking i would put a screw into the concrete, tie a masons line and go from there. i can pull the string to a batter board that i place on the grass, beyond the patio. so on the outer two corners, away from the house, i can place batter boards. the two corners closest to the house will require a string attached to concrete or to the house.

i've also considered attaching mason's line to cut 4X 4 blocks, by attaching a screw to them. i would then have the ability to move the blocks to establish square layout lines. any help is appreciated greatly
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ok...just found out i must attach the deck to the house according to local codes


I only have about 10" from concrete to bottom of door.....Can I use a 2 X 6 or a 2X 8?

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Personally, I would simply build up a wood framed deck to the level you desire just under the door threshold, make a step down to the existing larger part of the concrete (under the window), tile that part, then continue the deck on out at the higher level to cover the 4'x8' dirt/grass area.

It doesn't have to all be made of wood, and the concrete part will better lend itself to a firepit or a BBQ.

All this is based on the possibility that you cannot legally go back any farther??? (Someone mentioned that)

Any benches and railing are gingerbread that you can design in anywhere.
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Here's one we're in the process of renovating right now.
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thanks Willie....


what program makes those drawings?


how would you secure the frame to the concrete?
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did you finish the deck pictured above? i'd love to see pics.
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what program makes those drawings?


how would you secure the frame to the concrete?
I used the FREE version of SketchUp.

The way it was explained to you in the other thread about this deck will work pretty well.

Included here is another thought for that part of the house around the corner.
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I suggest you visit the local municipality and see what the requirements are for a building permit and if a building code applies. Even if the current concrete has performed well for 17 years if it does not comply with the code for frost depth then it should be removed (or underpinned or if the code provides for, you would have to get in soil mechanics to certify that the soil will not hold water and therefore not freeze and heave, it will be easier and cheaper to rip out). If a code applies find out the live load the deck needs to support and if the deck has to be constructed to resist any specific wind speed (uplist). That will guide you in your design. In the Bob Villa video I did not see how they attached the rim joists to the posts but that floating deck is a bit unusual in that the video said that the property is in a flood zone. The local code probably adopts FEMA guidelines and so the deck was being designed so as not to cause damage to the house in a flood condition. Simpson has a great many connectors that work great and you can likely get specific connector recommendations from the local lumber yard. They will stock what is commonly used in your area.
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just to add to the thread i found this pic of a patio deck w/ sleepers


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after all that, don't think I have my wife's blessing (ok...permission) on this project.

I did clean up the space and may consider concrete staining down the road. in the short term i am going to power wash the concrete and fill in the post holes.


cleaned up, no pergola




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