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nrhoades 02-21-2013 11:24 AM

Finishing lower room of raised ranch
 
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This is my first post on this site. I've bought a brand new raised ranch in July with an unfinished 25'x30' room that I wish to turn into a pool room. A 9' table requires a 15'x20' open space, which can be satisfied. I have little construction history, but I am very handy, and I don't doubt that I can do all of the work myself. I just need your help in discussing pitfalls and advice that come from the experience that I don't have.

I've started by taking a panaromic picture of the room and using Microsoft paint to create an artists conception.

PICTURES HERE:
www.abiscus.com/house/recroom

The room is unobstructed (LVL beam) with one wall grade level, two walls 4' high concrete, and one sharing with the garage and stair well. The water table is low enough not to be a problem, and the room remains dry except for a small amount getting through a settling crack (maybe half a cup during a very heavy rain). I will need to seal the crack, maybe from both sides. I first thought about using Dricore to make a floating subfloor, but found a product called SuperSeal that I like better for the price (no plywood needed, high compression strength). Plus if flooding does happen, no plywood to rip up and throw away: just remove the carpet, and possibly dry it out and save it.

I know I have to use pressure treated wood for the baseplates, and since I'll be making the structures for the buildouts and wainscoting myself I'll build it stick by stick and toe-nail the boards (instead of building on the floor and having to shim). I know I need to add foam against the concrete, and fill all holes with foam insulation before adding pink stuff. I'll do all the wiring myself, and add a black tiled drop ceiling.

So that's the plan. I don't know what I don't know :) Thanks.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 12:16 PM

Make sure you leave proper access for your water main shutoff.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 12:17 PM

Also, putting down where you are located will help others on here figure out what is code for your area.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121673)
Also, putting down where you are located will help others on here figure out what is code for your area.

I live in East Taunton, Massachusetts.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121671)
Make sure you leave proper access for your water main shutoff.

OK. Maybe I'll leave it exposed, and paint the pipes the same color as the wall. Or hire a plumber to move the pipes behind the stairwell. I don't think Mass. allows one to do their own un-licensed plumbing.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 12:31 PM

I checked out that Superseal website. Seems like a decent product. I think in my basement I'm going to use the Delta-FL product because its 5/16" tall instead of only 1/8" tall like that Superseal. This will allow more room in case of a flood.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:31 PM

QUESTION 1: The rightmost buildout on the back wall covers the main propane supply line. I want to put a sconce on the build-out, meaning electrical lines near the pipe. What is the reg. on this? I am thinking it isn't a big deal, because for example, you need to run an outlet to a gas stove for the electronics.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121685)
I checked out that Superseal website. Seems like a decent product. I think in my basement I'm going to use the Delta-FL product because its 5/16" tall instead of only 1/8" tall like that Superseal. This will allow more room in case of a flood.

Yes. I've asked for a 1 sqft sample and it is in the mail. From what I've read they are competitive products and either one is a good choice.

Dricore = $1.70/sqft, SuperSeal = $0.55/sqft, a good savings. Probably similar for Delta-FL.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nrhoades (Post 1121686)
QUESTION 1: The rightmost buildout on the back wall covers the main propane supply line. I want to put a sconce on the build-out, meaning electrical lines near the pipe. What is the reg. on this? I am thinking it isn't a big deal, because for example, you need to run an outlet to a gas stove for the electronics.

What material is the gas line?

I can't imagine it would be an issue to run it close. Depending on the material there may be a distance requirement. I'm sure you can find that in your building code book though. MA 8th Edition is what I believe you are on.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nrhoades (Post 1121692)
Yes. I've asked for a 1 sqft sample and it is in the mail. From what I've read they are competitive products and either one is a good choice.

Dricore = $1.70/sqft, SuperSeal = $0.55/sqft, a good savings. Probably similar for Delta-FL.

http://www.spycor.com/Cosella_Dorken...loor_s/109.htm

Check out this website.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121693)
What material is the gas line?

I can't imagine it would be an issue to run it close. Depending on the material there may be a distance requirement. I'm sure you can find that in your building code book though. MA 8th Edition is what I believe you are on.

Steel pipe.

It would be nice to have the code book, but don't I need to buy one for $100?

nrhoades 02-21-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121694)

Thanks. Another great option.

brockmiera 02-21-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nrhoades (Post 1121699)

Steel pipe.

It would be nice to have the code book, but don't I need to buy one for $100?

I think your code is based in the 2009 IBC / IRC with MA amendments. You can find ibc code online free and ma amendments as well.

nrhoades 02-21-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brockmiera (Post 1121708)
I think your code is based in the 2009 IBC / IRC with MA amendments. You can find ibc code online free and ma amendments as well.

Thanks!


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