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Old 01-25-2013, 06:01 PM   #16
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I would do about 4" of crushed stone and then 2-3" of sand....then vapor barrier.....

Without the sand, the sharp rocks will most likely puncture the plastic and there goes your vapor barrier.

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:15 PM   #18
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CJIII.....us jeep guys have to help each other....so....how about some pics of your ride?
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Oh............

I just assumed....CJ meant a CJ jeep....and the III is frequently used to represent a jeep grill......

Ok....you need to get a jeep....you can thank me later....
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My full name is Charles Jackson III so my nick name is CJ but I added the III.
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OK. I found the link. You are welcome to argue w/ Riversong, but no one on the GBA forum did at the time of his comment. You can also read over there, or buildingscience.com, about concrete wicking water. Bear in mind that not seeing water on the top of a post does not exclude the possibility that it also evaporated before being seen. This happens in basement floors that are "dry" until someone installs vinyl flooring and it pops, or they tape a sheet of visqeen to the floor and it gets damp underneath; not seeing is not a good indication of lack of (slow) wicking. And, no, bondo, it is not 4.5 miles. 5 kilometers is more like 3.1 miles. (K times 1.6 = M, or M times .6 =K, approx. Ex: a 10K footrace is 6.2 miles, each of which hurts.) Not that either number matters, unless you are building one H of a tall building. Pretty "wicked", isn't it?
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Without the sand, the sharp rocks will most likely puncture the plastic and there goes your vapor barrier.
Actually, I don't think the tiny holes from the gravel make a stink, unless the ground is very wet. Concrete is a super air barrier, and the gravel should be (SHOULD BE) a capillary break. I believe Joe Lstiburek mentioned "you can walk on your vb with golf shoes and it won't matter", or words to that effect. Still, my gut says to minimize the holes, like you said, and i don't think sand under the vb will hurt a thing. some of those spendy barriers would put a guy's mind to rest, but also empty his wallet. i bought some stegowrap for next to nothing, and it is incredible how much tougher it is than normal visqueen. it costs twice what 8 mil visqueen does, and it isn't even one of the real expensive barriers.

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