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Old 10-11-2010, 04:44 PM   #1
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in order to save a lot of money my contractor told me he would use fiber cement for exterior instead of wood.
i thought it was a pretty good ideas considering that it is eco friendly and half the price of wood!
any thoughts and opinions about using this stuff?

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in order to save a lot of money my contractor told me he would use fiber cement for exterior instead of wood.
i thought it was a pretty good ideas considering that it is eco friendly and half the price of wood!
any thoughts and opinions about using this stuff?
Is it for a dog house or an addition to the family room? There are shear issues to consider.
Plan? Permits? Or are we just shooting from the hip?
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Ron,
this is supposed to be the material with which the contractor will be building our new home. i have been hearing a lot about people using it as it is much more cost effective and eco friendly.
am i being told wrong?
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fiber cement siding seems to be a great alternative to either wood siding or vinyl. After doing considerable research on all types of siding I decided to go with fiber cememt on our new house, the only draw back I can see is maybe painting it every 10 years or so but I can live with that.
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I like wood.
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I hung it on a 1000 sq ft ranch as a DIY project in Michigan. Next time, I will make DARN SURE the market will reimburse me for it when I sell. It makes little financial sense to put it (instead of vinyl) on a house in a neighborhood where buyers appraisers value homes only on bedrooms and sq feet. Personal aesthetics are great, but this is important if you may move within 10 years.

The stuff is not forgiving at all. That means a LOT of extra $$$$ in labor over vinyl. Compared to wood? I don't know. But a LOT more than vinyl.

I would love to live in a neighborhood where using that better stuff would contribute its cost to the home. Next time I will:

Order it 6-sided primed, and one sided top coated to final Sherwin Williams color.

Use narrow trim to butt it to, and then when done top that trim with a second layer of wider trim to hide the caulking.

Use a rain screen

If I'm not doing it, then I'll watch the installation. Its somewhat fussy leaving enough gap but not too much, and making sure to properly use splices of flashing at butt joints and backer rod where needed.

Oh yeah.... I'll use the rough cedar pattern. Last time I got smooth, so all the defects and sloppy caulk joints showed. The cedar pattern looks fake to me, but it is good camoflage for "sins".

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PS I tried three different tools for hanging the stuff. This was my favorite

http://www.amazon.com/SoloSider-Sidi...6849972&sr=8-1
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Hint: bend your own solo hanger out of lightweight steel galv. strapping or the steel banding from lumber. 3 minutes with a pair of pliers bent to 1-1/4" exposure. Free.....

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thanks a lot for the info. i was going to have the contractor get it primed and painted anyway. just figured it would be factor sealed and easier (possibly cheaper) in the long run.
i do appreciate your taking the time to help me.
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Priming is optional, and just because it is marketed as "primed" many times its only primed on one face instead of on both faces and all edges. Also, if you want attention to detail the contract should say that the installer will prime any cut edges. (Same goes for wood).

I would definitely want to eyeball - up close - jobs any installer did before signing their contract.

Store bought hangers have some bells and whistles that I, at least, could not easily include in a homemade job.
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Go look at some Hardi up close before you decide.

Actually get out of the car and stand up against a big wall and look up.

Hardi not only shows but magnifies any imperfections in the wall.

Inexpensive, yes but like anything else you only get what you pay for.
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Go look at some Hardi up close before you decide.

Actually get out of the car and stand up against a big wall and look up.

Hardi not only shows but magnifies any imperfections in the wall.

Inexpensive, yes but like anything else you only get what you pay for.
+1. If you have large areas with no windows or openings you will notice bumps in the siding due it being so flexible.

Its great stuff and holes paint very well but just like anything else is requires maintenance. You do need to keep up on painting it and it can be damaged by the elements.
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+1. If you have large areas with no windows or openings you will notice bumps in the siding due it being so flexible.
Exactly my point, if you can live with lumps and bumps then by all means go for it.
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For wood or cement board, ruthless six sided priming including new cuts, rain screen, and caulk backer rod should all go a long way to reduce painting frequency.

Flexibility that shows bumps is indeed a property of cement board, but that doesn't mean its a poor quality product. IMO, most wall blips that show in the final look only show to someone who is looking hard, and not to casual observers. For the few highly-visible and often-looked-at surfaces, shimming out the blips is just another factor in the cost of labor to properly install the stuff. Yet another reason to use a rain screen, since it can be built to provide a flat installation surface where flat really matters.

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The only times i have seen MAJOR bumps were in commercial applications where you have long runs of the product.

With window, doors, roof hips etc on a house the bumps are less noticable.

I an an avid fan of the stuff. I hate vinyl with a passion (although its great is certain applications) and with this, there is less maintenance than wood.

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