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BigRedFan 04-30-2013 05:35 PM

Fence pickets bending
 
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ok first time fence builder and the project went fairly well except I did not build my top support rail tall enough so now I am very concerned about the eventually warping of my pickets. I have attached a pic that shows what I am talking about.

Is there a way that is aesthetically pleasing that would solve or help correct this issue??

gregzoll 04-30-2013 05:44 PM

Probably too green still when you put up the fence. If it was a company that put it up, talk to them. If you did it, all you can do is watch and see what happens, then replace the ones that warp later.

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1170273)
Probably too green still when you put up the fence. If it was a company that put it up, talk to them. If you did it, all you can do is watch and see what happens, then replace the ones that warp later.

ya thats what I figured didnt know if there was a way that would secure the tops of the boards flat but still make it look pretty as that is important to my wife

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 06:19 PM

Read about this on another thread

wonder if that would do the trick

"A decorative cap consisting of a 2 x 4 on edge along the top of the boards, capped with another on the flat, to form a tee or modified ell would help."

kwikfishron 04-30-2013 06:19 PM

About all you can do at this point is to screw a 2x strong back just below the top of the fence boards. Two screws (not nails) in every board into that.

The sooner the better or by the end of summer you're going to have a real mess on your hands

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 1170297)
About all you can do at this point is to screw a 2x strong back just below the top of the fence boards. Two screws (not nails) in every board into that.

The sooner the better or by the end of summer you're going to have a real mess on your hands

Need to find some examples of what this looks like from the back

jagans 04-30-2013 09:16 PM

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Aesthetically pleasing will be a challenge. The top horizontal support should have been about 8 inched down from the top. If the pickets are left unrestrained, they are really going to get pretty bad. I guess you could splice a piece of 4 x 4 to the top of the existing posts with another 2 x 4 sistered to the face of the existing posts, then add another horizontal support. That might be the easiest approach.

Fairview 04-30-2013 09:16 PM

I suggest you forget what it's going to look like and start looking for some rail road rail or I-beam in an attempt to stabilize it. Any more wood you put up is going to be the same quality and then after it bows / warps it will be a real mess.

This is no fault of yours but just what we have to deal with for lumber these days and the reason synthetic material is becoming more popular with each passing day.

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 09:29 PM

Forgive my ignorance but how would I utilize the I beams

Ultimately I am concerned with making this fence durable while also making it looks good

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 09:38 PM

Maybe a dumb question but if I ran a 2x4 all around the fence perimeter about 3 inches from the top of the fence but it was not attached to the posts or other rails in any way would that help

Or would a better solution be to do that and then add on to the 4x4 posts using some brackets and braces??

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1170411)
Aesthetically pleasing will be a challenge. The top horizontal support should have been about 8 inched down from the top. If the pickets are left unrestrained, they are really going to get pretty bad. I guess you could splice a piece of 4 x 4 to the top of the existing posts with another 2 x 4 sistered to the face of the existing posts, then add another horizontal support. That might be the easiest approach.

That is exactly what i am going to do. Seems like it would make it structurally sound

jagans 04-30-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedFan (Post 1170423)
That is exactly what i am going to do. Seems like it would make it structurally sound

You might want to locate some No. 1 KDAT PT 2x4's to limit the twisting after installation.

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1170424)
You might want to locate some No. 1 KDAT PT 2x4's to limit the twisting after installation.

Just to reinforce my question though it would no good if I installed a 2x4 rail but did not connect it to the posts in anyway correct

jagans 04-30-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedFan (Post 1170428)
Just to reinforce my question though it would no good if I installed a 2x4 rail but did not connect it to the posts in anyway correct

There would be no vertical member to keep the top of the fence on plane. Personally, I think the illustration I posted would look a lot more like you never made a mistake in the first place. If you want to make it really strong, you could add a 5/4 by 6 to both sides and create A U Beam. Break aluminum caps for the posts with a flange that sticks up behind the rail, and it will finish everything off nicely. Its up to you, of course, you have to live with it.

BigRedFan 04-30-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1170439)
There would be no vertical member to keep the top of the fence on plane. Personally, I think the illustration I posted would look a lot more like you never made a mistake in the first place. If you want to make it really strong, you could add a 5/4 by 6 to both sides and create A U Beam. Break aluminum caps for the posts with a flange that sticks up behind the rail, and it will finish everything off nicely. Its up to you, of course, you have to live with it.

At this point I am going to do what it takes to correct the problem more annoyed that we are staring down the barrel of some bizarre weather this weekend which means my fix will most likely be delayed until after work next week

What do you mean by creating ubeam and the aluminmum caps with a flange do you have any pictures the show what you mean


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