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Old 09-27-2011, 02:26 PM   #1
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my steps going into my basement are 36 inches wide, but no one ever put a rail on the left side as you go down for the bottom 5 steps (The stairs are in an L shape, after the landing no railing, before the landing its a wall on both sides. the bottom 5 steps as going down has a wall on one side and no rail on the other


there is a 4x4 post that holds the 1st floor up, which the landing also attaches to, the risers attach to the landing which is 3 inches behind the 4x4, so the landing attaches at the back end of the 4x4, i need ot run a rail from the 4x4 to the bottom, but to do this I need to make the steps 3 inches wider to be in code for the area... 36" is minimum... a rail would take space away from that...

someone suggested duplicate the end stringer take off the back 3 inches and put two of them attached to the 4x4 and to the last stringer then replace the treads so they are the right new 39" length

is this even alowed? or is it a good idea? no mater what I have to go into the 4x4 space to be to code, and moving it is no an option its cemeted into the floor down to a footing as its a structural element

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Our code permits (within limitations) handrails to project into the required width so if code compliance is your only issue you might want to investigate that.

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Our code permits (within limitations) handrails to project into the required width so if code compliance is your only issue you might want to investigate that.
was told by the inspector I have to have 36" of "walkable space" apparently this means nothing in the way of that 36"... the bad thing is the top of the steps are 39" wide... why they made the bottom 36 only with no rail I have no idea, I am getting marked as "no rail" for the inspection also even though I didn't make the steps... hence why I'm trying to fix this... just because I am renovating the basement they are including that problem as an issue to fix.....
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Screw 'em!! Tell them to come up with workable solution and a drawing for the modification and you'll pick it up at their office first thing in the morning.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:13 PM   #5
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I wish the guy wasn't such a hard ass I'd say that...

but seriously, can you expand stringers by sistering them? the top would butt against the 4x4 and be pretty well supported
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A half-a$$ed fix would be to cap them with new longer treads maybe. You could use store-bought treads with a bull-nosed edge that might extend a little past what is there now so it wouldn't look so funky. Let them cantilever the three or four inches you need and be done with it. Then you could stack a post, attached a handrail and put this idiot in your rear view mirror.
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A half-a$$ed fix would be to cap them with new longer treads maybe. You could use store-bought treads with a bull-nosed edge that might extend a little past what is there now so it wouldn't look so funky. Let them cantilever the three or four inches you need and be done with it. Then you could stack a post, attached a handrail and put this idiot in your rear view mirror.
hehe, yeah I forgot about cantilevers... 3" definatly wont rock that boat especially since its basically a no load weight area
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As long as you have 36” of tread your fine. The distance the handrail protrudes into the 36” does not get deducted.

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