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jcrack_corn 06-28-2013 08:01 PM

double gable, no cricket
 
neighboor is having "unskilled" workers do a major covered patio roof addition. the workers are doing the framing, roofing, drywall, etc...so i do not believed they are skilled in any of those. anyway, they have built a giant double gable that has created a 12 foot long horizontal valley. no cricket to be seen yet.

ill try to take pictures....it could be a good discussion on what not to do

GBrackins 07-01-2013 04:41 PM

sounds like it .....

won't be the first or last time we see something like this, sad commentary

joecaption 07-01-2013 04:45 PM

Got some picture?
What goods it going to do to tell him?

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-01-2013 07:11 PM

Maybe I don't know what a double gable is..... but would love to see what they are doing..... how do you build a gable structure into existing roof with a horizontal?????

Probably something simple, I just can't think of

GBrackins 07-01-2013 07:14 PM

two gables that come together with a flat valley. think of two AA

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-01-2013 07:25 PM

Thanks Gare..... I understand what you showed me..... still having a problem conceptualizing it.... should be fun seeing it....maybe Jcrack will give us a pic.

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kwikfishron 07-01-2013 07:36 PM

It seems to me that a double gable (AA) by nature would be it's own cricket assuming there's a valley between them.

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-01-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 1210141)
It seems to me that a double gable (AA) by nature would be it's own cricket assuming there's a valley between them.

Maybe that's why I'm having trouble conceptualizing it..... I wonder what it is tying into to create a 12' horizontal..???

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GBrackins 07-02-2013 12:13 AM

take two pieces of paper and fold each of them into a gable roof. then slide them together (where ridges are parallel) so that the overhang of each gable roof is touching, should look like AA. then you'll notice there is a flat valley between the two gables. without a cricket/saddle or other term for a sloped roof section water will pond (especially snow, just think of the mountains).

joecaption 07-02-2013 06:24 AM

Sounds like a dead valley. Here's some interesting pictures of some what the heck were you thinking valleys.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...roof&FORM=IGRE

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-02-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBrackins (Post 1210273)
take two pieces of paper and fold each of them into a gable roof. then slide them together (where ridges are parallel) so that the overhang of each gable roof is touching, should look like AA. then you'll notice there is a flat valley between the two gables. without a cricket/saddle or other term for a sloped roof section water will pond (especially snow, just think of the mountains).

Gare.... I guess I do understand it.... it's just so stupid... can't understand it. If it's freestanding, I guess you put in a saddle.... if it's creating a parapet wall, guess you overbuild a triangle shed..... sure sounds like a scewy roof line

..... still a picture sure would be fun to see.

Thanks

EDIT: Of course roof lines/structures seem to be their own specialized design issue. I'm envious of you guys that can just "see" how those multiple planes go together. I always have to study my truss designs...., I think it takes a special mind to be able to do some of those designs.... Matter of fact, my architect had to sub out to another architect, a roof design for an addition on my own home. Came out perfect, but I couldn't really see it untill I framed it.....

GBrackins 07-02-2013 12:42 PM

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here is a photo with double gables with a cricket/saddle

this was one of the photos in joe's link

take out the cricket/saddle you get a flat valley (or dead valley as joe said)

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-02-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GBrackins (Post 1210434)
here is a photo with double gables with a cricket/saddle

this was one of the photos in joe's link

take out the cricket/saddle you get a flat valley (or dead valley as joe said)

Yep.... I understand and can see that.... if it's freestanding gables as in that case.... but in the OP's case, they are building a porch into an existing structure/roof, are they not???

GBrackins 07-02-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jcrack_corn (Post 1208651)
they have built a giant double gable that has created a 12 foot long horizontal valley. no cricket to be seen yet.

when I read this I was thinking it was like in the photo I posted (without the cricket/saddle). I could be wrong however

MTN REMODEL LLC 07-02-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcrack_corn (Post 1208651)
neighboor is having "unskilled" workers do a major covered patio roof addition. the workers are doing the framing, roofing, drywall, etc...so i do not believed they are skilled in any of those. anyway, they have built a giant double gable that has created a 12 foot long horizontal valley. no cricket to be seen yet.

ill try to take pictures....it could be a good discussion on what not to do

Gare....No problem.... we're all just guessing what the H they're doing... maybe they just want a bird bath on the roof:wink:


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