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Old 05-01-2013, 07:26 AM   #1
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Don't you just love going be hind some one and fixing their mistakes. I have a New construction Job going and doing a Punch list for the owner. The framers they hired did a Ok job. but left out cross bracing. did not frame in doors right. made bath rooms to small for Tubs and or toilets to be in the same room. Framing out of plain in some places a 1"1/2. This is holding up the home owner in getting their pluming done their electrical etc. Bottom cords of the trusses way out of plain! ugh a night mare.and they left a mess. word to the wise Hire a licensed bonded insured contractor. Photos to follow.

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Your post is contradictory. How can you say the framers did a good job and then list all that is obviously wrong. Is a sign of good framing these days that the roof stays up for more than a day? Rooms look sort of, almost square and plumb?

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I'm not sure we want to see pictures -
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Your post is contradictory. How can you say the framers did a good job and then list all that is obviously wrong. Is a sign of good framing these days that the roof stays up for more than a day? Rooms look sort of, almost square and plumb?
The problems are this are the rooms square yes! is the structure sound yes. did the framers go wham bam thank you mam? yep are the walls flat? Not all of them. The problem Arised because the HO who is the GC hired a "contractor" paid cash the "contractor" is no were to be found and had their framing inspection done and had those fixable problems pointed out. as far as rough framing goes it's ok. have four hours of work left on the fixes then hope the home owner does better with plumbing and electrical. Always always do your home work on those that give you bids.

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A question ...
Why didn't they have you frame it?!?
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Just fix it. We sometimes get sounding as bad as Holmes with our criticisms... when the client usually got what they were willing to pay for.
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Why didn't they have you frame it?!?
Simple they never asked me and I never asked for their business. when they started the project. A million contractors out there I know over exaggeration. They felt they had a good price At the time.
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My wife and I built our log home almost entirely by ourselves. She was the GC and I was all the subs (that's her version anyway). You can bet my framing is plumb and straight - she makes one heck of an inspector.
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The problem Arised because the HO who is the GC
There's your problem right there. A homeowner who knows nothing about construction acting as a GC. Yes, I understand them wanting to pretend they are their own GC and THINK they can save money but, look what happens.

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They probably went with the cheapest price. They obviously hired and unlicensed contractor and most likely no insurance.. So they get what they deserve. Now they have to pay more money because you have to fix it. So, how much money have they saved pretending to be a GC?
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Anybody that knows anything about building knows that working on something that is plumb and square is infinitely easier to work on than something that is not. It is actually hard to build something that is not plumb, level and square because so many problems stem from doing so.

I agree with sdsesder, a wall that is out of plane by 1.5 inches in 8 feet is not OK. It is pathetic. The walls should have been laid out on the platform according to the architectural plans, so why dosen't the tub fit?

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