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Old 02-26-2007, 09:23 AM   #1
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Which to do first, ceiling straping or frame perimeter walls?


I am about to start framing my other room and there is a gas pipe running all along the ceiling (across the whole room) approx. 1 inch lower than joists.

I plan on putting 2X4s to the ceiling in order for me to drywall later.
Would I do this first, before I start framing my perimeter walls or should I do the walls first?



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I am about to start framing my other room and there is a gas pipe running all along the ceiling (across the whole room) approx. 1 inch lower than joists.
I plan on putting 2X4s to the ceiling in order for me to drywall later.
Would I do this first, before I start framing my perimeter walls or should I do the walls first?
Thanks.
Is the pipe going to run against or near the length of your new wall?

Based on what you are saying, I would suggest that you frame the walls first. Then frame in the gas line. like a mini-soffit...

....this is really the way to go, especially if it is running near the wall, that way you can attach a 'cleat' to the wall that is the same depth as the build down for the pipe. = later, attach the sheetrock over and you have the soffit...

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Which to do first, ceiling straping or frame perimeter walls?


The pipe runs right down the middle of the room.
Perpendicular to the ceiling joists.
Right from one wall to the other wall.

You suggest mini soffit.
Would that be like putting one 2X4 beside it on one side and them another 2X4 beside it on the other side and then when I do the drywall I would have a small little soffit (1 1/2 inches deep?)


This sounds easier than putting 2X4 straping every 16 inches?
True?
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What is a "cleat"?
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What is a "cleat"?
2x4 or 2x3 or what ever attached horizontally across the wall studs...
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soffit is easier to built at framing stage... but it kills you at mudding stage... I experienced it...so you kind of need to judge which one to go, not a straight answer...

If I have to do mine again, I would have eliminate some soffits, the time I frame, I tried to maximize on head room... well, it's done and I aren't going to change it...
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Y.M.,

I finally took the time to post pics. Here is a pic. of a basment remodel that we did about 7 years ago. You will see that we have ceiling strapping and walls built. You also see a PVC pipe,as well as copper piping, near the main carrying beam. At this point, we are just about ready to "box" the pipe into a soffit structure:




Here is the same area after ... and prior to painting:

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Thank you so much for taking the time to show me your pics.
(I am going to show you mine too, when I am done, but you have to promise me to ignore all the errors that you see.)

I now see exactly what I have to do.

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You give excellent instructions!
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Thank you so much for taking the time to show me your pics.
(I am going to show you mine too, when I am done, but you have to promise me to ignore all the errors that you see.)

I now see exactly what I have to do.

(Have you ever thought of moonlighting as a teacher?)

You give excellent instructions!
Actually I used to do alot of teaching, instructions and public discourses...
But, now all my time is taken up with work things....I'll be working late tonight on a pile of paperwork; estimates, invoices, scheduling, designs, etc..

I just wish that i had more pictures of the projects that we have done including pics during the construction or remodeling process. They would help alot in trying to explain things here...
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You are right.
Pics really do help.

Thanks again.
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YM - What I did in my basement (I had the exact same pipe in the middle) was to build my 'soffit' across the entire room. I lost 1.5" of headroom but did not have a chopped up ceiling to contend with when drywalling and I think it looks better.
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That is exactly what I am going to do.

Atlantic showed me a picture and I will be using 2X4s.

It will bring my ceiling down just like yours.

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