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eram 08-05-2013 01:15 PM

Deck to screened porch support change
 
The original plan was to add a deck, 16' parallel to the house and 14' out. Simple rectangle except for 45 degree corners. It is over a walk out basement, so I was trying to limit the amount of posts. Just for the deck I had a ledger attachment, then a 4x10 beam at 12' supported by 6x6 posts. This left a 2' cantilever. All according to local code spans.

I want to change the standard deck to a screened porch. Same dimensions and design (angled corners). What is the best way to minimize the number of posts and still have adequate support?

Daniel Holzman 08-05-2013 06:01 PM

You may not have to change anything. If the original design was acceptable to your local AHJ, the new plan may not require any changes to the framing if the AHJ agrees that the loads are the same. I recommend you talk to your local building inspector, after all you are going to need a permit from them, plus inspections, so best to talk first, build later.

joecaption 08-05-2013 06:11 PM

Why a 4 X 10 beam (I guess you really mean ledger, not a beam) and not doubled up 2 X 10's?
It would be stronger and less likely to sag, twist and check.
Adding a roof and walls may change the requirements to meet code.
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eram 08-05-2013 09:18 PM

I have a permit under the standard deck guidelines. Was hoping to get the deck up and then have a contractor for the roof after getting that permitted. There is an open decking part of the design as well. Thought I could build the support structure to handle the roof as i built the deck, assume that would be more than standard deck guidelines.

I meant doubled 2x10s for the beam. I am in Virginia, not too much snow or big winds. But this will be 10ft off the ground.

Msradell 08-05-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Holzman (Post 1225477)
You may not have to change anything. If the original design was acceptable to your local AHJ, the new plan may not require any changes to the framing if the AHJ agrees that the loads are the same. I recommend you talk to your local building inspector, after all you are going to need a permit from them, plus inspections, so best to talk first, build later.

The loads will definitely not be the same, they will be considerably higher! You will have snow load considerations as well as the additional weight of the roof framing, decking and roofing. The load will probably double or close to that.

eram 08-07-2013 10:52 AM

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I talked to the permit office and it sounds like I can double up the joists on each side and have a flush beam parallel to the house.

My question now is how to notch the 4 posts on the cut corners to take two sets of doubled 2x10s coming in on an angle?


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