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Old 06-20-2012, 01:30 PM   #46
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Amen to that. If people want to say their piece such as "consult your local building dept," fine, but the guy doesn't need nor is this the place to lecture him. Please take the "holier than thou" BS elsewhere. Yes it's "illegal" to not pull a permit for many things, but so is driving 60mph in a 55 mph zone, and I'd also argue that pulling a permit for many things is entirely unneccessary and stupid in some areas. As mike (the mod) said, it's between him and God.
How about the "righteous" contractors driving around in their HD trucks (aka bomb on wheels) talking on their cell phones... The list goes on and on of so many worse things we see on a daily basis... I'll agree though that when doing construction their are potential dangers that can be put up by people that don't care about rules, and it's comforting to know that an inspector (I'm guessing civil engineer) approved the structure.

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Old 06-20-2012, 01:32 PM   #47
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Hey Sm424,

Good for you for sticking it out here while being lambasted from all sides. Most of the people here like to do things RIGHT and that often includes permits and inspections. So I'm glad to hear you called the inspector and please report back his comments on the post.

I don't have an answer but a quick question: Are the posts pressure treated?
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:46 PM   #48
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I have been in construction my whole life and I can tell you if it for my property and I can get away with it I don't pull permits. I don't need to give the towship any mroe money then I already do. I am well versed in many trades and if I don't know something I ask a friend who does. That said is your post ok? Ya it will be fine. Does it look bad expecially cause it is on the outside edge? Yep loks like ahack job to me. Joe you need to back off.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:52 PM   #49
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And you still don't get that I didn't "knowingly" do Illegal work. I did know about getting a permit when doing construction, but I didn't think for something this small it was necessary. I'm not a contractor, so I'm not familiar with these rules and regulations. You live and learn, we all do. Doesn't mean you have to come on here with guns blazing, scolding anyone that made a mistake.
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Joe you need to back off.
And you need to mind your buisness. I don't have to back off from anything. You don't like what I have to say don't post to me.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:06 PM   #51
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It's called an analogy. https://www.google.com/search?q=analogy

As I said, saying your piece is fine, but you think you're going to change someone over an internet forum? I don't think anyone is condoning illegal things, but there are plenty of LOGICAL reasons why people don't pull permits for certain things, and it's not because the counties and inspectors are overly helpful. "Illegal" is relative, hence the analogy I gave to you.
Bad analogy. Your analogy means nothing. So many p eople come here knowingly doing illegal structural and dangerous work not getting permits and inspections. Then they come here wanting advice how to fix it.

If no one says anything...no chance on changing someone's mind. People might change their mind hearing it before they do something stupid. So for me its worth saying something. You do what you want I couldn't care less.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #52
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Joe your posts are getting ridiculous in my opinion. I would appreciate it if you would drop it.
He now realizes he needs permits.
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Joe your posts are getting ridiculous in my opinion. I would appreciate it if you would drop it.
He now realizes he needs permits.
Your opinion means nothing. I've already said what I had to say to the OP. It's always been between the OP and myself. You and a few others won't let it go by posting to me. Mind your business and stop posting to me with your ridiculous posts.
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Your opinion means nothing. I've already said what I had to say to the OP. It's always been between the OP and myself. You and a few others won't let it go by posting to me. Mind your business and stop posting to me with your ridiculous posts.

You are something else.
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I say lesson learned, I raise my right hand and promise to get a permit next time I do any sort of construction work. I mean that seriously (joe you win you got a man to think over the internet about what he's doing). It was an honest rookie misconception of code. period. lets get back on topic now. I'm thinking the inspector is gonna have me redo the posts. He already told me that my other mistake of encasing my treated post in concrete was another bad move. He predicts it will rot out in about 10 years. I'm still wondering if I can simply place a new post on one of those floating piers and bolt it alongside my "to be rotted out" post just as a fail safe for the future? It would beat trying to dig out the old post. I'm really hitting my head against the wall for not simply filling a sonotube of concrete and placing the bracket on top. I was already done the hard part of digging past the frost line. Next time...
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Whether or not you can use a post pier block comes down, here in BC any way, to the deck height above the ground. On a side note ... I was looking at a 4 story deck/fire escape rebuild in Vancouver yesterday ... Scary thing is the numb nuts who built it used just square concrete blocks to support the posts for the last section of stair which is crazy steep and has about 35 treads. The posts are relying on friction it would seem as no hardware at all. They then used 3x8 lumber as the posts supporting the 4th floor deck (which are buried in the ground) and added some 1x4 to 'strengthen' them up. This thing was wrong in just so many ways ;-). I was scared just being up there and it's the main means of entry for the 4th floor tenant!!

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Posting here first would help so many. They might not pull a permit. But they could learn a 2x6 only spans so far, not just as long as they want it to.

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I love how people want to avoid paying taxes and other such fines and fees, however they all up in arms when the city,county, country, etc is low on funds and begins to make cuts. When the fire department has to lay off firemen and increase response times, when the local park lawns are no longer watered, when the pot holes and streets are in disrepair, etc. Who exactly pays for all these city services? I do, you do, we all do (well, most of us do, those who like to skirt the law don't) Thanks for raising MY taxes and fees because YOU didn't pay your share.

Just a little rant.
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Posting here first would help so many. They might not pull a permit. But they could learn a 2x6 only spans so far, not just as long as they want it to.

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If you're looking at my first pic and thinking that was my span, you would be wrong Everything is on hold now, but my plan was a 12" span between my 2x6 joists. The existing deck has 2x6 joists that are still good after 25 years. If I were making a new deck I would have gone with 2x8 joists.

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