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Ineedhelp2009 06-04-2012 09:15 PM

Deck building around pool
I hope I am in the proper section to ask this question.

I am getting a 27' above ground installed next week.

This summer I intend to build the first portion of the deck; 20'x20' against the pool. Over the winter my intentions are to finalize the deck with a 5' octagon all the way around the actual pool and join it to the 20'x20' deck. Deck height will be roughly between 48-55" I will know more once the pool is installed.

2 questions:

I have never done any deck building, but have done a lot around the house. Should I attempt this job? I was checking out lowes online "design a deck" program and it breaks everything down for me.. Not to a T, but the gist of it.

I will be doing all of this on a minor slope; 2-3' over 50'. Are concrete footings a must have? Can I use the cement blocks?
I am just not looking forward to digging 30" holes and mixing that much concrete.

dbldee20 06-04-2012 09:48 PM

Home Depot rents both gas powered 2 or 1 person augers and portable concrete mixers. You could probably get all your holes dug in one day for under $100 in rental fees. I'm not a contractor but I'd think you want to pour pads under your deck posts, otherwise it will sink. I recently dug 16 fence post holes and deck support pad holes, all 36" deep in less than 5 hours with a Home Depot auger. It's relatively easy to use unless you drill into a lot of rock etc

MikeVila 06-05-2012 10:23 AM

Just built large deck adjoining to 24' above ground pool. Didn't go all the way around though. I had built 2 previous decks. The hardest part if you want to call it that is when you get close to the pull and have to do some angles and getting your layout perfect. Not sure I would want it to be my first deck build.
We dug 12 holes and knocked them out fairly easy with auger rental from HD. Be prepared toix some concrete. For 26" hole with 10" tubes it's 2 bags of 80lb Qwikrete! Get a couple books and study. Make sure you have all the tools and take your time and the reward is great!

Joe Carola 06-05-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Ineedhelp2009

Are concrete footings a must have? Can I use the cement blocks?
I am just not looking forward to digging 30" holes and mixing that much concrete.

Are you looking.foward to your deck falling down and hurting someone? Footings are a must.

And that's to bad about you not wanting to dig them like the rest of the world has too have no choice whether you do it by hand or machine.

Call your building department and ask them exactly what you need for footings....they will tell you.

colinp123 06-05-2012 10:35 AM

Concrete slabs/footings that sit on the ground are going to move around and/or sink over time with a deck like you are describing.

You are going to want to ensure max stability. Get digging (might have to go down 36-40" and get some concrete tubes in the ground like this:

And then use these to support the 4x4"s for strength.

GBrackins 06-05-2012 11:12 AM

Ineedhelp 2009,

I would recommend checking with the building department to find out the requirements for installing an above ground pool. Most jurisdictions have requirements for safety and security such as fencing, self closing gates and alarms. They may also have separation requirements from a septic system or from the dwelling itself. They may also require submital of construction drawings and obtaining a building permit. Permits are a good thing because the building inspector will check your construction to ensure it is safe and proper.

You stated you haven't done deck building so I'm attaching the Prescriptive Residential Wood Deck Construction Guide
This will provide you with the requirements for building a deck. It give spans of framing members, connection requirements and details.

As far as footings they are certainly needed to prevent "sinking" of your structure. Check with the building department for the required depth of footings. If you don't want to mix concrete check with your local lumber yard they may carry pre-formed concrete footings. Sort of a round sonotube type foundation with a bell-shaped footing attached. Of course this would require renting a bob-cat or other small utility vehicle that you can dig the hole and set these into.

Good luck with your project!

Ineedhelp2009 03-30-2013 09:03 AM

Sorry for the delay, but very useful information here, thanks.
I am going to do rent a auger and do it right.

jagans 03-30-2013 11:40 AM

I dont know if you have ever used an auger before but they can be hell on your back. Renting a small bobcat with a hydraulic driven auger is cake.

GBrackins 03-30-2013 01:30 PM

augers, even two-man augers can be fun should you hit a large rock or boulder and the augers wants to spin the two of you round and round.

Ineedhelp2009 03-30-2013 01:40 PM

Good points. I had a buddy come over with his ditch witch to run underground power, and my yard is nothing but rocks. Might be worth the few hundred bucks to get a bobcat, since I have never ran a auger.

Good input, thanks

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