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Old 02-08-2013, 08:35 PM   #61
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Btw. From what I was told by lumber yard and the guy building it 2x10 joists are up to code. I'm not ignoring any advise given by you guys.

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You also have 4x4 posts on the list. You need 6x6 to pass code. (at least, that's what I have read)
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You also have 4x4 posts on the list. You need 6x6 to pass code. (at least, that's what I have read)
I have been told by 2 people that 6x6s are for 2nd story or higher decks. I will look into it more.
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No way would I ever build a deck that high and that big with 4 X 4's!!!
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2x10 at 12" o.c.? what species wood? not trying to be a pain, just don't want you having issues ......
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No way would I ever build a deck that high and that big with 4 X 4's!!!
me either Joe ....
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Btw. From what I was told by lumber yard and the guy building it 2x10 joists are up to code. I'm not ignoring any advise given by you guys.
hmmmm, look at the Table I posted and you decide. 2x10 may work at 12" o.c. spacing depending on the species of wood. If they are looking at the joists spans in the code they may be forgetting that preservative treated wood has only 85% of the strength of untreated wood.

They may be correct ...... I don't know which code you are building under, I'm going by the 2009 International Residential Code, and the American Wood Council's "Prescriptive Residential Wood Deck Construction Guide" based upon the IRC. The American Wood Council is the organization that specifies the standards for wood frame construction in the US.

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He going to space the 1' apart since he wants 30. This is what the code allows with 2x10s. Only thing I'm concerned about are the 4x4s. 6x6s are very expensive. Also if I use 6x6s how will I use the vinyl hand rails. Don't they slide over the 4x4s on top of the deck?
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No. 6x6 posts support the beam that the joists rest on.
If you set your beam at say 14', then you can use 16"
centers and save yourself some money on lumber. The
4x4s for the railing are a separate item and are
usually bolted through the band or joists or both.

The pictures you showed earlier, of that nice deck
your contractor built, that's not the correct way to do
things anymore. If I had built that here I'd of had to
tear it all down and start over.

My advise....get a permit and make sure it gets inspected.
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What was wrong with that other deck? How much are permits? How do I get them? Do I have to pay the inspector? I'm already way over budget so its looking like I'm getting a small loan.

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What was wrong with that other deck? How much are permits? How do I get them? Do I have to pay the inspector? I'm already way over budget so its looking like I'm getting a small loan.
Call the building department and ask them how much they are. You need permits and inspections anyway no matter what they cost.

You should stop worrying about cutting the cost down buy not using the right materials by guessing at what size lumber to use. Draw a sketch and present it to the building department and they'll let you know.

Building the deck right should be your main concern. If that doesn't for your budget, build a smaller deck.
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Call the building department and ask them how much they are. You need permits and inspections anyway no matter what they cost.

You should stop worrying about cutting the cost down buy not using the right materials by guessing at what size lumber to use. Draw a sketch and present it to the building department and they'll let you know.

Building the deck right should be your main concern. If that doesn't for your budget, build a smaller deck.
What he said.

I said in my post a few pages back exactly what was wrong w/ the deck that guy built, especially for today's code. I've found this forum invaluable in terms of the information and expertise of folks here. I as well as others have posted links to the 2009 building code for decks. Do yourself a favor and read it over a few times, and you'll understand what needs to be done. After reading it over a few times, come and ask questions. It lays out EVERYTHING in plain detail in terms of spans for wood size, how the beams should rest ON the posts, etc.

If you want to cheap out and build your deck the way you want to go right ahead, but I won't waste anymore time trying to help if you're just going to ignore good advice. When I pulled a permit I think it cost ~$100. Can't remember. Some inspectors can be a bit of a pita (in terms of sticklers for little things), but better to err on the side of caution sometimes than building something shoddy. Especially if you've never built a deck before, the inspectors are your friends. The $100 I spent was well worth it imo.

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He going to space the 1' apart since he wants 30.
better get 31. one to start then one every foot, so if the deck is 30' in length
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What was wrong with that other deck? How much are permits? How do I get them? Do I have to pay the inspector? I'm already way over budget so its looking like I'm getting a small loan.

You need to talk to your local authorities for your answers as it varies in cost from one local to another.

second, if your contractor would build a beam under the deck at approx. 14' out, with 6x6's holding it up, you could use 2x10's, 16 oc, with a 2' overhang over the beam.

The way your contractor built his previous deck is not a proper or right way to do this. This concerns me and I wonder what else he does wrong.

By the way, a ledger is not to be supported by lags. It needs to be bolted to the existing house ledger.

If you don't understand what I mean by beams, I will attempt to find a pict for you.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwAg&dur=111

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Thanks guys. I have the guy drawing out a scetch for me to bring in and get a permit. Is the inspector part of the cost of the permit? I plan on bringing in his sketch and the materials list.


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