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Old 03-12-2013, 10:16 AM   #226
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Hope you crowned all them joists.

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Hope you crowned all them joists.
Explain. Still need 1 joist on each side and then the rim joist.
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The crown is the bow or curve of the boards. The crown of the board should be at the top of the joist. They can sometimes be crowned or cupped so bad they can't be used but if you ordered the exact number of joists needed then they likely just used what was available. If who you hired knows what they're doing it should be done without question.
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I think he is just referring to placing the crown side up so that when the joists sag they eventually sag to level and not start sagging and settle even lower.
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Pretty sure he did that. All the boards were pretty straight but some had some zigzag curves that I can only see when looking eye level down the board.
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Pretty sure he did that. All the boards were pretty straight but some had some zigzag curves that I can only see when looking eye level down the board.

best is to take a 2x4 and slide it across the framing perpendicular at mid span. start at the edge and go inward, you will bump the high ones with the 2x, you can also sight across perp to the joists mid span and see the high and low ones. nothing you can really do now but rip the top off of a high one and scab next to a low one with another joist.
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best is to take a 2x4 and slide it across the framing perpendicular at mid span. start at the edge and go inward, you will bump the high ones with the 2x, you can also sight across perp to the joists mid span and see the high and low ones. nothing you can really do now but rip the top off of a high one and scab next to a low one with another joist.
Using a portable planer is the best way, however even with all that work we would come back 6 months later and it still looked like crap because PT framing lumber sucks.
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I slid my 48" level across all the beams and there are 2 that are low and maybe 1 that was a slight bit higher. The rest are as level as can be. Not concerned at all.
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You should be concerned Carpenter's don't build houses without crowning. All lumber facing the same direction.

Not good enough. You might be able to crown them buy looking from the end toward the house. No crown = problems in a couple years.


Nails popping, cracking boards, roller coaster 5/4 boards, etc etc. Oh and that level thing that was described don't work because it only tells the level of a couple joists at a time , you need the whole joist layout level not just a 48".
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They are crowned. I looked down each one and its very hard to see but they all bend up ever so slightly near the middle. Looking from below from the side is a little more obvious actually.

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Concrete for the bottom stair posts were poured yesterday around 2:30 or so. It rained pretty good for about 20 mins around 8:30 this morning. It was enough to puddle water in the holes on top of the concrete. I estimate the concrete sat drying for about 18 hours before the rain. Think it will be okay? It feels pretty hard on top but not completely solid yet. Those post only stick out a foot or 2 above the concrete. I plan on putting more concrete on top later on in those holes to fill them up more and to put concrete under the 2x that attaches the bottom of the stringers
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It can pour/cure underwater...

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Framing inspection set for tomorrow morning. Will they still come if its raining? It's supposed to rain until at least 10am and then a 40-50% chance the rest of the day and Tuesday morning. I'll be at work so hopefully they will call and give me a heads up if/before they come. We shall see.
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You don't necessarily have to be there. However,
I think your contractor should be. I try to be at all
inspections just to handle any concerns that may arise.
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You don't necessarily have to be there. However,
I think your contractor should be. I try to be at all
inspections just to handle any concerns that may arise.
He will be there in my place. He was at the first one also but we were still digging the last hole when the inspector came. Lol

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