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Old 02-18-2013, 12:22 PM   #151
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Simpson# DTT2z. One pair on each end of deck.
One piece get nailed to inside floor joist. Other
one gets nailed to deck floor joist. 1/2" threaded
rod and nuts connect the two. Holds ledger to house.
Thanks. At least they aren't expensive.

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For some reason only one Home Depot anywhere near me carries these things and its about 45 mins away. They have 21 in stock while no others have any. What's up with that?
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Did you ask if you were required
to have them? Not all areas do.
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Did you ask if you were required
to have them? Not all areas do.
They are required. It says I need a min of 2. It's very easy to miss but I'm sure the inspector will know.
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Just out of curiosity how do you install these? You just screw one to the house floor joist and the other to the deck joist? I can't find a good explanation. Home Depot has a "2 pack" but don't they work in pairs? If they don't work in pairs then I'm thinking I will buy 2 pairs anyway just for extra security. All pictures I have seen Show a long rod that connects the 2 but it doesn't look look like the Home Depot comes with any rod?

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Simpson book shows how it's done. http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/DTT2.asp Be sure to read all the details carefully, keep in mind that you need to tear up the flooring to nail off the joist-subfloor at 6" O.C. (and to prove to the inspector that it is).
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Simpson book shows how it's done. http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/DTT2.asp Be sure to read all the details carefully, keep in mind that you need to tear up the flooring to nail off the joist-subfloor at 6" O.C. (and to prove to the inspector that it is).
Not sure why you say I have to tear up the flooring since I have full access to the joists from under the house. Can I just connect one to the floor joist on either side of the deck and connect them to the ledger? Would that not be the same thing preventing the ledger from pulling off the house? Just curious, I'm trying to learn so I can build my own deck on my shed later on.
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Not sure why you say I have to tear up the flooring since I have full access to the joists from under the house. Can I just connect one to the floor joist on either side of the deck and connect them to the ledger? Would that not be the same thing preventing the ledger from pulling off the house? Just curious, I'm trying to learn so I can build my own deck on my shed later on.
You need to look closely at the details and the notes. The notes say that the SUBFLOORING needs to be nailed off at 6" O.C. to the joist that you are attaching the lateral load bracket to. There isn't a way to do that from below (without maybe an engineered design).
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Not sure why you say I have to tear up the flooring since I have full access to the joists from under the house. Can I just connect one to the floor joist on either side of the deck and connect them to the ledger? Would that not be the same thing preventing the ledger from pulling off the house? Just curious, I'm trying to learn so I can build my own deck on my shed later on.
The point of the lateral load device is to keep the joists and ledger from pulling away from the house. They must be attached to house floor joist.
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That deck looks nice, but wouldn't pass code in this county, and many for that matter. I'd double check what your code allows (assuming you have a building code) before building anything. Not sure if you plan on pulling a permit or what. 6x6 posts are required now over 4x4. Some may say that's overkill for a low deck but I wouldn't mind the extra stability. Also, the beams must rest ON the posts and must be fastened w/ through bolts. If you look at the link I posted w/ the pdf you'll see where the differences are.

Your dump won't take wood with nails on it? That sounds really odd.. that can't be right. PT wood has some nasty **** in the wood, and burning it is a very bad idea. I would call up your dump again and see what they recommend for disposing of PT wood. When people demo things they don't go and individually pull nails and screws out of each board.. something sounds off.
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I got the tension ties and bought 2- 2' long threaded rods which I think will be plenty long enough. The 3 footers seemed a little bit to long. I now have everything ready to go minus the concrete which I am getting the day we will use it.

In the near future after the deck is completed I want to add gates to block both sets of stairs. I have seen a few online but they seem to all be in the 36"-42" range and one of my stairways will be 6' wide. Any ideas where to get a gate that wide even if its a double? I plan on leaving them open all the time except when my daughter, and possibly another child by the end of the year, are out there with us. We don't use our back yard much because its pretty much in the woods and poison ivy grows all around the perimeter. With this deck we can go out there a lot more often though!
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2 36" gates would be fine.
May need a center post for
them to close against. Then
you can open one side or the other.
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2 36" gates would be fine.
May need a center post for
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Thanks. I saw pictures of double gates that latch to each other but I didn't see the right sizes. I will search again to see if I can find it. It looked just like my hand rails so it would be perfect if i can find the right size. Other staircase will be smaller, close to 5' I think, so it might be harder to find a gate for it. Someone online suggested using a regular vinyl fence gate which was a good idea also. I assume I can just screw through the vinyl sleeves and into the 4x4 for the latches pretty easily.
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This would be perfect. Not sure how it stays closed though.



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If you zoom on it, there's
a pin on each one that drops
into a hole in the deck board.
You only need on side
stationary though and a simple
gate latch on the other.

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