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Old 08-20-2010, 06:00 PM   #16
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there are no license requirements for a contractor or DIY'er to buy loads. i'm not sure, but would be willing to bet you can buy red loads at your local depot or lowes

Last I saw was the "green" loads there, but it's been a long time since I used the powder gun.

I bought one of these instead:

http://www.powers.com/product_55011.html

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Old 08-24-2010, 03:59 PM   #17
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So they actually have these ramsets at the local box store in tool section. (Never even noticed em before) The guy at the rental section though said they probably will only chip up my floor and not hold well. Said most guys who rent them just bring em right back after trying to use on an old concrete floor. I may still try it though just for the h of it. I have to do furring strips into block too so it should at least work or that.

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That old of a house, I doubt there is any vapor barrier plastic under the slab. If this space will be heated, I suggest adding some sill sealer between the p.t./slab for a thermal and capillary break.
Thanks for this advice on the vapor barrier. I actually wasnt even going to use p.t. for the bottom plates but I guess I should. We never did that back in the day when I was a helper building houses.

And I hadnt even thought of this but should the drywall that touches the ground be greenboard? (I am plannin on doin a decorative concrete overlay on the floor.)

And you guys were right about the sledge, it sure aint 30 lbs. My bro gave it to me for xmas and told me it was 30 lbs. and i never thought twice about it. Shows how dang weak Im gettn these days that I didnt even notice!
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And you guys were right about the sledge, it sure aint 30 lbs. My bro gave it to me for xmas and told me it was 30 lbs. and i never thought twice about it.
A sledgehammer under the christmas tree, that is PRICELESS. Did he wrap it, or just a nice big bow? I love it! It's better than most of the crap my relatives get me!!
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keep your drywall 3/4" above the conc floor,,, dec conc o'lay's a good thought - just do your floor prep right ( muriatic pickling & neutralizing )

sledge reminds me of the time i got the ex-wife a self-propelled lawnmower for mother's day ( not cool as i later discovered )
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A sledgehammer under the christmas tree, that is PRICELESS. Did he wrap it, or just a nice big bow? I love it! It's better than most of the crap my relatives get me!!
Nah he just wrapped up the business end with the yellow handle stickn out .

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keep your drywall 3/4" above the conc floor,,, dec conc o'lay's a good thought - just do your floor prep right ( muriatic pickling & neutralizing )

sledge reminds me of the time i got the ex-wife a self-propelled lawnmower for mother's day ( not cool as i later discovered )
I was trying to go no base trim (the wife is not a big trim fan) so the 3/4" gap probably wont fly.

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thems some big words. I was planning on hiring a contractor anyway but what does that involve exactly?

And another question on that note, if I use http://www.citrusdepot.net/info_mastic.html to remove the mastik, do think it will alter the floor chemically where it would have an effect on trying to put down an overlay?
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placing the dry wall right on the floor's a no-no as it could suck up ( capillary action ) moisture leading to mold/mildew,,, baseboard's more attractive in our house

pickling's a prep step to promote adhesion of dec conc overlays,,, if acid staining, just prep w/swing buffer, black pad, & tsp then rinse a couple times,,, citrus i don't know as we prep mechanically ( grinders/scarifiers ),,, if you're hiring a pro, he should know what to do,,, many times tile ghost lines can always be expected even thru an o'lay which's why we use 3 coats.
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these are my favorite conc anchor
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these are my favorite conc anchor
That's to simple.
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So just to follow up...I bucked all of the recommendations!

(no offense ) I ended up borrowing one of these from a friend. Wonderful tool I didn't even realize was out there.
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Cheater! A little easier than banging cut nails, no doubt.

So, you got a sledgehammer for christmas last year.... what did your brother get you this year, crow bar?
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I bought one of these and it worked fine for the only time I'll ever use one:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

Best deal for the money spent. No sledge hammer swinging. Wear ear and eye protection!
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I bought one of these and it worked fine for the only time I'll ever use one:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

Best deal for the money spent. No sledge hammer swinging. Wear ear and eye protection!
PAT is good for certain things and will take the place of cut nails for sure, but remember: it's a fastener, not an anchor. make sure you are aware of it's limited holding power!
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Cheater! A little easier than banging cut nails, no doubt.

So, you got a sledgehammer for christmas last year.... what did your brother get you this year, crow bar?
Ha, no cd this year.
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Ramset/hilti gun as suggested. You're not holding the plate down, you're holding it from going side to side.

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