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Old 05-24-2009, 07:46 PM   #16
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i may not be a beginner, but i'm not a professional either! i'm simply patient, persistent and frugal.
i'm still learning new stuff here and during my building every day!
this site has helped me through a few things the inspector would have no doubt poopooed if i'd done it the way i thunked it was supposed to be....lol
my two 6'x6' picture windows cost me $100 each. normally $860 each (installed) it pays to shop around, and yeah, it sure helps if you make the new home around the new windows and doors. pretty much any size will work.

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Old 05-24-2009, 08:15 PM   #17
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:25 PM   #18
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that's a strange question to ask a Level 10 Blood Elf Priest.....

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i RARELY have seen anything from you i disagree with kc, but i gotta say something here......
i have shopped newspaper ads, (jarrah and ipey from that), auctions, garage sales, habitat for humanity and craigslist and other places for materials and have done ALL the labor myself.
...and boy, i'd LOVE to eat the gold-plated meal that would cost the many, many thousands of dollars i've saved!

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I'm not talking about scrounging materials at the swap and shop, craigslist or garage sales. Buying through normal retail channels, saving money is much less of a possibility.
Mouse I know you saved a lot of money but your home is unconventional in that you built it around an existing structure of some sort as I recall, and that you're a resourceful guy especially with your materials aquisitions. A lot of people that visit the Home Depot "pro desk" and read a Time Life book on building think they're ready to build a home and think that they'll save a bundle doing it.
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A lot of people that visit the Home Depot "pro desk" and read a Time Life book on building think they're ready to build a home and think that they'll save a bundle doing it.
good point....

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Old 05-25-2009, 09:18 AM   #21
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A lot of people that visit the Home Depot "pro desk" and read a Time Life book on building think they're ready to build a home and think that they'll save a bundle doing it.
You mean there's something more I have to know? Oh gosh, I think I'm in big trouble.
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I'm a pretty advanced DIYer, and much of the advice you've received here is spot on.

However, I built my own cottage 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 16' X 24' with a partial second floor complete for approx. $22k, all inclusive - materials, plumbing, electrical, flooring, windows, roofing, kitchen, appliances etc. etc. I planned the dimensions so that I would not waste material (most material comes in dimensions divisible by 4' so 16 X 24 is perfect starter "box" to build. I also designed it so it would be sort of modular so that I could add additional "boxes" off the sides from the main "box" for add'l bedrooms (haven't done that yet). It took me about a year and it was quite a bit of work but I did it. Would I do it again..............hmmm maybe. Definately not the drywall, what a *****!

But I had lots of time on my hands and already owned a lot of tools AND I am a compulsive researcher. I probably spent 3 hours sesearching for every hour of labor. And there were a lot of hours of labor!

If you think you're going to just pick of a hammer and start swinging save yourself a lot of heartache.

On the other hand if I had listened to every person (including all the pros) who said I couldn't do it I never would have had what turned out to be a great experience. And by all accounts (even grudgingly the pros) it turned out great.

I would attach pics if I could figure out how.

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When I first began in construction I was just a big, dumb, strong kid who loved physical labor. So of course, dumb grunt jobs were where I was utilized. The initial few years were spent doing what I thought was “building houses”. Most of my contributions were exclusively in the realm of producing the basic structure. I was told what to do, and I did it.

While I may have become quite good at doing what I did, that’s all I could do. The years helped me branch out into learning more facets of construction. But still, all I could do was function as a fairly proficient tradesman in a few areas. To wit: Site Layout, Tractor grading, Concrete placement & finishing, Blockwork, Form & Frame carpentry, and some roofing.

Well, when I got my first shot at being a “foreman” on a small job, (They gave me two English kids, fresh off the boat, to help me do a 6,000 foot metal Office/Warehouse for our electrical sub.), I quickly learned just how much I didn’t know. Even on such a simple job as that.

One thing you do need to understand is that your task will be much more difficult if you cannot fully understand the alignment and the progressive succession of a successful construction schedule. This is one place you CANNOT get the cart before the horse, and you have to know where the road ahead leads... not to mention where each of the adjoining side roads intersect... and when they will each feed a ton of sometimes seemingly unrelated traffic onto your main path.

And how to plan for, schedule, and control each of these several thousand little foxes running around with their tails on fire. Then still keep the big elephant steadily moving on down to the river... where you then have to figure out how to get him to cross to the other side.

In short, if you cannot literally build the entire house in your head – long before you pour the first footer – you may eventually get some sort of habitable structure standing. But you will have emotionally aged ten to twenty years in the process.

I wasn’t joking about the “How to build a house” books in an earlier post. They do exist. (I think that one I mentioned really is $15.50.) But all most of them will do is give you a sense of false confidence that will end up costing you thousands of dollars... and maybe your marriage. Definitely your sanity.
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It was mentioned early in the thread that in most housing markets today houses can be bought for less they can be built. I think you will find this to be very true. I would have to take a long hard look at building new in light of this, unless one is desiring of something specific as to location, unique, or custom.
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In short, if you cannot literally build the entire house in your head
*bingo*! i wake up planning, go to sleep planning, think things through all morning coffee, then grab the tools.
they ain't lyin' when they say "90% inspiration, 10% perspiration."
i takes a LOT of thinkin'!! and boy, have i learned a bunch since i started!

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I've actually stopped what Im doing at times when I get an idea so I can sketch it out or make notes for follow thru

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