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Old 01-18-2011, 06:02 PM   #31
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a little confused, but I think Joe is very much on track.

A new lentil should not be needed unless:

1. required by code...old lentil not up to today's code

2. change in opening size dictates new lentil.
a. existing not the correct size
b. support area of lentil diminished or not up to code.

Lentil adventures might be avoided by custom door work, but that
may cost more than the rework on the lentil.

This project is:
a little more involved than popping out a window and putting in a door.

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your right Bob it wasnt a walk in the park and its a good thing I had some freinds who do brick work to lend a few pointers,getting the lentil in without tearing out more brick then needed was a bit more then I expected but it did come out well
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Kimber96, you may want to check with your local Building Department as some parts of FL require State licensed installers for window/door glass due to the liability involved.

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I am getting ready to start similar project.... How will I relocated the electrical? I'm 90% sure there will be 220 air conditioner wire and a 110 outlet, I'm wanting to tap into the outlet and make a porch light. Anyone want to walk me thru the relocating the wires? Will I lengthen them in a junction box and run the runs above the door?


Let me try to give a visual. Single story house with crawl space The window measures 67" wide and from the floor to the top of the window is 80". From the inside looking at the window. The outlet is left of the window about 2 feet and the ac unit is also left of the window about 8 feet. My guess is the electrical wires run from the electrical box (right of the window) under the window to the ac and outlet. So.... When I rip off the Sheetrock under the window, how should I move those wires?
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I am getting ready to start similar project.... How will I relocated the electrical? I'm 90% sure there will be 220 air conditioner wire and a 110 outlet, I'm wanting to tap into the outlet and make a porch light. Anyone want to walk me thru the relocating the wires? Will I lengthen them in a junction box and run the runs above the door?


Let me try to give a visual. Single story house with crawl space The window measures 67" wide and from the floor to the top of the window is 80". From the inside looking at the window. The outlet is left of the window about 2 feet and the ac unit is also left of the window about 8 feet. My guess is the electrical wires run from the electrical box (right of the window) under the window to the ac and outlet. So.... When I rip off the Sheetrock under the window, how should I move those wires?
It might be better to just run new wires if you have to extend the wires. If you have enough slack, pick the most convienent route.
You can only use a junction box if it will be accessible, say in the crawl space.
A specific route could only be suggested if I was there and saw the setup you had and the relationship to the panel.
But if the wires come up from the crawl space, that seems a logical point for the extension.
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Make sure you know what the rough opening size is (height and width). This will dictate whether you can use a standard or need to get a custom size. If you want to use a standard size door (cheaper) you may need to make modifications to the house to get it in if the rough opening is not big enough. Since it is a 50 year old house the standard sizes have changed (generally smaller), so your opening is important. Since you have a 8" concrete block home any modifications could be difficult or almost impossible. That house probably has a poured concrete bond beam and it could have been formed and might be the top of your rough opening (big $$$ to modify). Without seeing what is there a contractor will have to assume the worst to protect himself.

Custom sizes are available for more money and they take a while to get, but they can be made to fit your opening and could dramatically reduce the installation cost.

I just replaced an older (30 years) sliding door. It was the standard (very heavy) at the time and was wider than today's "standard" and making it fit would require changing the exterior, which meant a battle with the homeowners association. I had no ides what the actual rough opening was, but knew it had the be installed without changing the exterior, but a french door was an acceptable product.

I could have eventually installed the door my self and have inspected many and am certified by a window industry association. I also did over 50'% of the work on my 1850 sf lake home over a few years. I also knew what came with the installation (demolition, disposal, new interior trim, shimming, sealing and caulking, picking up the window and all of the supplies, making extra trips, caulking, adjusting and cleanup). I got 2 quotes that were from suppliers that had questionable sales tactics and knew little about the product and I assumed the installation would be similar. I contacted Anderson Renewal and the salesman was professional and had all the answers and quickly recognized the old window and gave me a detailed written quote with no pressure to sign or decide. I gave the go-ahead and a day later someone came out and did the detailed measuring and took about 20-30 photos of the interior and exterior. The bad thing was the schedule for production and the available installation time.

The installer called ahead of time and asked if it would be O.K. to arrive 1/2 hour early. He arrived at 8:30 with a fully equipped trailer (generator, compressor, metal break) and left at about noon. HE explained the detail operation, ways to adjust and let me know that he installed it to be a tight because the compression foam would shrink a bit and be proper in about a month or two. I did not know that our municipality required and inspection of exterior installations, but Anderson scheduled an inspection for 1:30. They also had to installed CO monitors and smoke detectors where required. The permit cost and the monitors were included in the $2700 price. It took the inspector about 3 minutes to approve the installation of everything.

I know I could have got it done a little cheaper doing it myself or going with another brand, but not as well, faster or easy. I just ordered another one that will also be custom and delivery will be in 6 to 8 weeks and they guanteed the same installer in the proposal.

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