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Old 04-25-2013, 04:02 PM   #31
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OH! REAL QUICK!!!!

Any metal installer chime in here...

I am trying to figure out the J/C channel around the windows. I watched a you tube video and I get what they are trying to do but couldnt see very well how they were doing it. They cut the top 2" longer then window and the channel overhung the window 1" on each side... they did some cuts and bending to fold over C-channel on sides... but I didn't see it really good and not sure about sill!? Seems like the sill, the channel would be cut window width and channel would come doen next to those, opposite of top but again, no idea what to do.

any good site with a video? or a detail??

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That being said, what would be the maximum length we should try and work with?
Well, I can’t answer that one since I don’t know the crew. If it were my job I’d make it happen but I do this stuff for a living so whatever it takes.

One option would be to order full length panels and if you can’t handle them you can always cut them. If you do just be sure to put the cuts into the channels and keep the factory edges in the field.

Be sure to paint all of your cuts/notches regardless. The supplier should be able to get you the matching paint.

With 3’ vertical seams I’d want at least an eight inch overlap. See what the manufacture says about that.

I use a template and pre-drill all of the screw holes in a stack so you end up with straight screw lines.
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Well, I can’t answer that one since I don’t know the crew. If it were my job I’d make it happen but I do this stuff for a living so whatever it takes.

One option would be to order full length panels and if you can’t handle them you can always cut them. If you do just be sure to put the cuts into the channels and keep the factory edges in the field.

Be sure to paint all of your cuts/notches regardless. The supplier should be able to get you the matching paint.

With 3’ vertical seams I’d want at least an eight inch overlap. See what the manufacture says about that.

I use a template and pre-drill all of the screw holes in a stack so you end up with straight screw lines.
We are the crew

I am glad to hear you say that about the long length because that was MY suggestion to hubby in first place. I thought we would have least amount of waste if we did that. I thought, if uresco could deliver the 40 footers to our home, on palate or something... we could just cut lengths as we go! I have yet to get a thumbs up on that.... 2437 sq ft is metal excluding windows. Maybe I will push for that... then we can see what we can handle!

I didn't know a person is supposed to paint cuts/notches???

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We are the crew
I knew you were the crew, what I was thinking was “the capabilities of the crew” (no offence).
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I knew you were the crew, what I was thinking was “the capabilities of the crew” (no offence).
Quite capable :-) Between all 3 of us we make an incredible team. But we aren't body builders so making sure pieces are level etc... if they are heavy it gets harder! But with lift, we can get them up there easier.

We build entire thing and interiors are incredible. I detail and figure out what I want and how I want it done, they figure out how to put it together. FIL has awesome carpentry skills, hubby is electrician and both are super handy in all areas. Im handy in many ways as well. I have become a pro caulker, tape/mudder and painter :-) We will work together to get the job done!

No offense taken at all :-)
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Check out some of the threads in the "Project Showcase" section on this site.

I'm thinking you should start your own thread there. Like I said... "We like pictures".
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we do make mistakes... and we learn from them and try again. but We all research and research and research :-)

But we are just DIYers... with exception of my electrician hubby who is a pro in that category :-)

I have degree in architecture but not considered a pro as my time in the field was cut short bc of kiddos. I love doing hat I do tho!!! Just lack knowledge. But i learn everyday :-)
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Ok.... So I chatted with hubby. I told him my easiest layout would be full sheets for seamless look. He said "that's not a bad idea and then if we can't handle that we can cut them but that leaves option open". That being said, they need to be ready to be overlapped in case so I need to order them a little longer just in case. Sounded great...

Until I mentioned idea to uresco and they could probably handle 24 footers.

Greeeeaaaat. I would love a min of 28 footers because that's bect longest length.

How would a person get these to our house?!
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Ok.... So I chatted with hubby. I told him my easiest layout would be full sheets for seamless look. He said "that's not a bad idea and then if we can't handle that we can cut them but that leaves option open". That being said, they need to be ready to be overlapped in case so I need to order them a little longer just in case. Sounded great...

Until I mentioned idea to uresco and they could probably handle 24 footers.

Greeeeaaaat. I would love a min of 28 footers because that's bect longest length.

How would a person get these to our house?!
Rent a trailer or have them delivered would be my best guess. Are those viable options where you live?
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Rent a trailer or have them delivered would be my best guess. Are those viable options where you live?
I would really like at least to get 28 footers. That is like next long repeating length. I mentioned to hubby and he said we could use our 4 place trailer and perhaps get 28 footers to work. So that may be my option. I am just going to have to have overlaps on lengths over 28 feet.

That being said, what's procedure on that? Do I offset joints? or keep them together/ What hides them best? It's the nu wave so according to them overlaps are much cleaner. But I feel like if they are done at window lines they may stand way out.
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I would really like at least to get 28 footers. That is like next long repeating length. I mentioned to hubby and he said we could use our 4 place trailer and perhaps get 28 footers to work. So that may be my option. I am just going to have to have overlaps on lengths over 28 feet.

That being said, what's procedure on that? Do I offset joints? or keep them together/ What hides them best? It's the nu wave so according to them overlaps are much cleaner. But I feel like if they are done at window lines they may stand way out.
Stagger your joints vertically. Try not to lap within 2' of your window opening. Your eyes are naturally drawn to the window and will more than likely continually notice the lap. yeah it will be pretty seamless but there will be a shadow line depending on time of day. Whats your longest panel run? We run panels up to 42' mainly because that's what fits on a flatbed. Does your local supplier not deliver?
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Stagger your joints vertically. Try not to lap within 2' of your window opening. Your eyes are naturally drawn to the window and will more than likely continually notice the lap. yeah it will be pretty seamless but there will be a shadow line depending on time of day. Whats your longest panel run? We run panels up to 42' mainly because that's what fits on a flatbed. Does your local supplier not deliver?
I wanted 40 footers :-( longest run is 38 feet. (37'-11") They deliver but they don't have a flat bed. Their boom truck is out also for that length. They could do 24 footers with whatever vehicle they could use.

Seamless is EASIEST way to figure this out!

Plenty of rental places. I could look into this too! This sounds dumb, but would I call u haul? HAHA! where does one rent a flat bed!?
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Stagger your joints vertically. Try not to lap within 2' of your window opening. Your eyes are naturally drawn to the window and will more than likely continually notice the lap. yeah it will be pretty seamless but there will be a shadow line depending on time of day. Whats your longest panel run? We run panels up to 42' mainly because that's what fits on a flatbed. Does your local supplier not deliver?
Ok so I am having hard time here. I am going for as seamless as possible but long horizontal section of window on right is not playing nicely. One shows horizontal exposure, and other is dimensions. As you can see, I need a piece to really span the entire elevation with cuts on both sides. But it's much longer then 45 feet. Not option. I have to have a break. The 3D images I posted before can be a guide as well but what would you pros do here?

I have to attach dimension separate.
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and the dimensions...
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Why so much agonizing over this?? Estimate approximately what you need and buy it. If you're short, buy more. If you have some left over, return it. You're typically going to have at least 10% waste no matter how you try to figure.

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