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Old 04-09-2011, 07:43 PM   #46
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Now that there is a plan in place, who is going to show the OP how to layout the hips and rafters?
Joe just made it so easy, it's practically self explanatory now.

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Thanks Joe... Between you and Craig I should be able to knock this out... I appreciate both of your guys time and effort... Does your plan still work for a 10ft wall though? or do I have to accomidate for the smaller size? shed back walls are only 10ft.. no room for 12's.
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Thanks Joe... Between you and Craig I should be able to knock this out... I appreciate both of your guys time and effort... Does your plan still work for a 10ft wall though? or do I have to accomidate for the smaller size? shed back walls are only 10ft.. no room for 12's.
No problem. Here is the drawing for 10' walls and 3 equal sides at 45°.
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appreciate that Joe... thanks man... you didn't have too... but you did...

thanks again man
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And there is a guy who knows the difference. You are a true professional Joe.
Thanks Lone. I feel that drawing it out in plan view and connecting the dots to the overhang always simplifies things and also lines the hip offsets perfectly off the corners.
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Thanks Joe... Between you and Craig I should be able to knock this out... I appreciate both of your guys time and effort... Does your plan still work for a 10ft wall though? or do I have to accomidate for the smaller size? shed back walls are only 10ft.. no room for 12's.
Loneframer always complicates things for me. He knows too much to dumb it down sometimes.
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I know this quick drawing is sloppy, and the rafter points aren't beveled pretty...... but it would be easy to build.

Whacha think? (Yes, the rafter tails all line up at the same height and the same distance from the walls.)
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awesome detail... now that I can follow even easier... I love 3d.. helps the mind get a hold of what it should be.
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The back walls run 10' each
the two kid's walls are at about 5'
and the front wall is something like 7'

These measurement seemed to be about what you were showing in your original drawing.

Like I said, this wasn't too carefully done. Just knocked it out to let you visualize it.
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thanks Willie T... the reason for having a DIY website...

all you guys have made just one project that much easier for me...
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Here it is with a fascia around it.
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I assume you understand this, but I'll run it down anyway.

The back corner hip and the two rear kid's hips will be easy to line up. Where you are probably going to have to take some asprin or hit a few drinks will be on that front.

For you........ and I don't mean this as a slight........ the easiest way to go will likely be to build up to the points of the two front kid's hips, THEN go ahead and hang the front fascia.

Once that piece of wood is up there, you will have a target to shoot for in cutting the lengths and angles for those remaining 5 or 7 rafters. That's not the "pro" way, but it might help keep you sane to do it that way.
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The trick to remember is that you are basically laying out a simple 10' square building with hips on all four sides. Really nothing much to that.

The interesting part comes when you whack off one of those corners (the front entry). This changes the geometry of what would otherwise be all identical roof members. So.... it should be straightforward till you get to the framing of the front roof slope. And that is only a small part of the total job, so you can handle it.

Be aware that you are going to find that the bird's mouths (actually not "bird'smouths", but rather just rafter 'seats') on that front entry will not be the same as all the other ones. They will be a little different angle and they will not be cut as deep. Nor will the rafters sit on the wall the same as all the others. They will sit higher and farther toward the outside. Don't let that shake you. It has to be that way for the fascia to run at the same level all around the shed... and the inside ceiling line can be adjusted later if it begins to bug you.
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thanks for the vote of confidence Willie..

just kidding... I have built a ton of projects that were deemed "impossible".. a beer and some friends and all is good..
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awesome detail... now that I can follow even easier... I love 3d.. helps the mind get a hold of what it should be.
If you want all the commons to be a 4/12....you can do that by shrinking the clipped 45° wall so that the run of the rafter is the same as the other 4/12 commons at 5'. That is just like a slice of an Octagon hip roof. Doing that with equal overhangs allows you to sit the hips on the corners and the pitch of the hip is 4/13 instead of the 4/12 commons. The regular hips at 45° are 4/17.

The first drawing I made was having all three sides equal but that creates a different pitch for the common and the hips offset the corners and is a little harder to frame, but it givers you a bigger wall.

If you don't need the bigger wall frame it like this drawing and keep all the commons the same and them you just make the Octagon hips with a 4/13 pitch. I hope this makes sense. Just giving you another option and an easier way to frame i if you don't need a bigger wall.
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Thanks Joe.. I do need a bigger wall otherwise defeating the corner shed... I like your other drawing about the 10ft back walls a and the 6ft sides... will work the best I think.. that way taking up the most and little space in the yard at the same time

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