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Old 06-19-2009, 08:20 PM   #1
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i'm realizing my newly rebuilt porch needs gutters, as there is massive runoff from a huge roof and just saturating stairs, deck, trim, and my new cedar lattice.

so, i'm thinking about copper gutters. i'd like to keep them shiny. is there some sort of sealant or lacquer of something you can apply to keep them shiny?

also would like to weigh in on what you think would look good. obviously copper would. w hat about galvanized steel? my house is a 1918 victorian cottage. pretty simple, shutters, nice new porch. the house has different gutters here and there - k style aluminum in two places, and old painted galvanized half round in others.

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nothing that wouldn't need reapplying often.
but if you gold-plated them......

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Gold plated might be less then copper gutters
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hmm. yea. have any of you had experience with "copper penny aluminum?" apparently it's alumunim painted copper color with actual copper specs, then sealed clear so it won't tarnish. i wonder if this would look obviously fake or not.

is it stupid to buy copper only to have it turn brown?

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I've looked into them on the net, but that's it
I wanted something on the back that woudl heat up faster to melt snow. The back faces South, I was thinking copper until I saw the prices. I need a job 1st
So then I saw the copper look - about 1/2 price
Don't know if anyone local carries them

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do you think galvanized steel would look nice on my home? or is it better suited to an industrial building.

what about stainless steel gutters? that would be sharp...
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Won't the copper turn green? Patina?
Even at 1/2 price I'm not biting
Ah, the K style are only like $27 per 10'
But then there is shipping if not local
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well, i think it takes like 30 years to turn green. it's a nice look, but who cares 30 years from now? certainly not i.

where would you buy it online?

i'm seeing about $70-$90 for 10' of 16 oz. copper half round.

estimating about $700 materials for copper job.

probably $200 for galvanized.
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do you think galvanized steel would look nice on my home? or is it better suited to an industrial building.

what about stainless steel gutters? that would be sharp...
Stainless is $20 per foot

I've looked at different sites for copper like, about the same prices
I'd rather buy from a local supplier
But that will add more cost
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If you opt for the copper, you really need to understand that part of the beauty of copper is that it WILL age. Just like unpainted treated decks or fences will turn grey/silver. Capitol domes are often done with copper with the knowledge that they will turn green with age. As well as copper pans on bay windows/dormers/bows etc. Embrace the aging rather than try to fight it. One, less maintenance, and two, it will still provide the protection needed without the worry.
If keeping a certain color is your concern, I'd consider painted aluminum, and save the added expense of copper.
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copper's patina is particularly appealing to us but that's personal,,, copper's much longer-lived than the others + it speaks to the quality you have/need/want in your life,,, we even used copper step flashing when repointing our chimneys.

paint's not permanent
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Automotive lacquer would be your best hope to keep them shinny. (or I suppose you could polish them once a week, forever.) Keep in mind that water run off from the oils of untreated cedar will eat right through copper.
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You could also talk to a local powder coater about powder coating alumin gutters shiny copper. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference from the ground
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hmm. yea. have any of you had experience with "copper penny aluminum?" apparently it's alumunim painted copper color with actual copper specs, then sealed clear so it won't tarnish. i wonder if this would look obviously fake or not.

[is it stupid to buy copper only to have it turn brown?]

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