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Old 03-15-2011, 10:29 AM   #16
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Because even though it is a DIY forum, many people here are contractors and any thread that has bad news on a contractor gets the same treatment.

In my eyes the homeowner states their requirements and the contractor designs to their specifications. I do project work with big businesses, try walking out on a contract with Anheuser.
What the heck does the fact that you do contracting with big business have to do with this situation, what the heck does the fact that this is a DIY'r site with contractors presence have to do with the OP situation?

Ask for more facts, don't bash the OP, again, as a contractor, you should have thicker skin, more patience, and should be more tolerant, if this site is your way of public venting without exposing yourself and or your business then maybe you shouldn't be here, that kind of input really isn't needed or wanted.

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Old 03-15-2011, 05:10 PM   #17
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What the heck does the fact that you do contracting with big business have to do with this situation, what the heck does the fact that this is a DIY'r site with contractors presence have to do with the OP situation?

Ask for more facts, don't bash the OP, again, as a contractor, you should have thicker skin, more patience, and should be more tolerant, if this site is your way of public venting without exposing yourself and or your business then maybe you shouldn't be here, that kind of input really isn't needed or wanted.

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Holy Crap man.. I was actually sticking up for the OP. Damn, jump the gun much there champ?

I said contractors around here usually side with the contractor in these dream scenarios regardless of knowing the facts. It is easy to walk out on a homeowner, I just mentioned try doing it to a big fish.

Good grief.

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One thing is true, a big business like AB has a lot more leverage than average Joe homeowner when dealing with contract labor.
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Holy Crap man.. I was actually sticking up for the OP. Damn, jump the gun much there champ?

I said contractors around here usually side with the contractor in these dream scenarios regardless of knowing the facts. It is easy to walk out on a homeowner, I just mentioned try doing it to a big fish.

Good grief.
I read your post and re-read you post and still come out with the same sense that you were taking exception to the OP's position, hence my retorte.

Now that you have rewritten the thought, I understand what you were trying to say and you point is well taken.

Thanks for the clarification

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Fireguy-The contractor never submitted the plans to the city when he said he did. It took over 4 months to finally have a completed set and was approved. Of course this was past our finish date as stated and signed in the contract. Then he took a month blaming the utility people for not having shown up to check for any live wires when at the end of the month I found out that they were never called to begin with. Then he took 3 weeks in between to pour concrete for the footings and another 3 weeks to put up the foundation walls/blocks. Then/now he refuses to finish the work because he no longer wants to work with us. We signed a contract in July, it is now mid March, for a job that should have taken at most 2 months to complete.

Anesthes-So although homeowners CAN be nasty, I believe Ive given him more then plenty of time to complete this project.

Concretemasonry/Ron-The grade is an issue and he had stated that once the blocks were up when the mason called him to inform him of this. I believe when another contractor is signed on, he will have to put some sort of drainage to make sure water doesnt leak within. Or we would have to rearrange the landscape which might pose an issue as I believe it might go beyond property lines.

Concretemasonry- its stated that he will install 5/8 rebar and pur 3500 psi concrete. Lay 8x8x816 concrete block and parge exterior. Install masonry vents, anchor bolts and lay 6 mill plastic, 4 inches of 3/4 gravel and 4 inches of 3000 PSI concrete for rat slab. Then back fill and grade. As far as framing he was supposed to install sil seal over the blocks, install 2x6 pressure treated plate, 2x10 floor joists 16 inches on center, install 3/4 osb ply board flooring, glue and screw. Frame exterior walls using 2x4 construction 16 inches on center, etc

Jomama- we are supposed to have a crawlspace. The city requires that before backfilling, that an inspection is done once the rat slab is done. The contractor stated that the soil within the foundation would be used for the backfilling as well as what was already excavated out which you cant see but is a huge almost 20ft mountain of soil.

Unfortunately, although I wish I could become my own general contractor and esp after losing a lot of money, I have no idea where to even begin or how costly it would be to higher each company ie, the mason, framers, etc individually by myself.

BTW-sorry for not replying back, Im not getting reply messages in my email!
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Fireguy-The contractor never submitted the plans to the city when he said he did. It took over 4 months to finally have a completed set and was approved. Of course this was past our finish date as stated and signed in the contract. Then he took a month blaming the utility people for not having shown up to check for any live wires when at the end of the month I found out that they were never called to begin with.
What state is this?

Very odd. I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes for the building department to review my plans, and unless it's a 2 story or something crazy it's a matter of framing specs, foundation specs, and making sure spans are within the IRC. As far as utilities, calling digsafe 72 hours before starting the job is all that is needed.

What was the hold up with the plans? I know the new 2009 energy codes kind of took me by surprise as you need R21 in the walls now, and R49 or R38 in the ceiling depending on how it's framed up, which does change the plans unless you do expensive spray insulation. This is for MY region, what state are you in?

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Anesthes- it took that long because after signing the contract, we waiting over a month waiting to hear back from the city. When we didnt get a reply I went over and they had never received any plans. When I called the contractor he said he was "working" on them and would submit them shortly. Of course this excuses continued and when finally plans were given, they lacked electrical, plumbing, proper variances, the 2008 energy codes as he had 2005 for some reason; you same it, it was missing. So the city denied it. So he then asked his friend/architect to sign and seal the initial copy and of course the architect never reviewed the work so the city denied it again stating that it was the same plans except now they were signed and sealed. I then had to go to the architect and was told that zoning denied it. So instead of reviewing ALL of the plans, the architect revised the zoning issues and of course after zoning approved it, electrical denied it stating there wasnt anything to review as electrical was omitted. This basically went on for weeks and thats why it took 4 months.

I live in New Jersey. NJdig was never given an order to come out to look for any wires all the while I was being told maybe the weather kept them away, or theres a 72hr waiting period, or that the order was in and he was just waiting for a reply. Unfortunately, depending on who you speak with at NJdig, they dont divulge information unless youre the person whos put the order in. Luckily I explained my situation to one of their reps who was kind enough to tell me nothing was ever called in for my location.

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go here to find if the guy was licensed http://www.contractors-license.org/ If he is licensed, contact his bonding company, assuming his bond was paid when he signed/did some work. If he is not licensed, you are stuck in a muddy ditch. Contact the NJ agency and turn in his sorry azz.
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go here to find if the guy was licensed http://www.contractors-license.org/ If he is licensed, contact his bonding company, assuming his bond was paid when he signed/did some work. If he is not licensed, you are stuck in a muddy ditch. Contact the NJ agency and turn in his sorry azz.

I have already contacted the state and they informed me that he was licensed. This may be a stupid question but what is a "bonding company"? Is that the same as an insurance co? He has liability INS but thats all Im aware of.
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I have already contacted the state and they informed me that he was licensed. This may be a stupid question but what is a "bonding company"? Is that the same as an insurance co? He has liability INS but thats all Im aware of.

A bond is a quarantee that certain performance standards will be met. In other words, if a contractor does finish a job, the bonding company may pay to finish the job. The bonding company then will contact the contractor and make arrangements to be repaid for their efforts.

1. Get a notebook, spirall bound and new. Do not remove any pages.
2. Date and writh down what your have told us. Write down and date your conversations with the builders board, ask them for copies of all corrospondance. GEt names & phone numbers.
3. Call the Builders Board and ask about a bond. If there is a bond, contact the bonding company.
Ask about financial limitations and your remedies. Again, note names, dates, times, phone numbers.
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A bond is a quarantee that certain performance standards will be met. In other words, if a contractor does finish a job, the bonding company may pay to finish the job. The bonding company then will contact the contractor and make arrangements to be repaid for their efforts.

1. Get a notebook, spirall bound and new. Do not remove any pages.
2. Date and writh down what your have told us. Write down and date your conversations with the builders board, ask them for copies of all corrospondance. GEt names & phone numbers.
3. Call the Builders Board and ask about a bond. If there is a bond, contact the bonding company.
Ask about financial limitations and your remedies. Again, note names, dates, times, phone numbers.
Luckily, I am up to date with all the names,numbers, and dates. However, how do I contact the Builders Board to find out if he is bonded; is that the state board for contractors or something completely different?
Thank you!
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first thing i saw was no foundation vents in poured wall then all the dirt has to come out for ground clearance to floor framing in crawl. looks well made and standing water not a problem except where it may be entering existing house
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id get a pump in that water and pump it out of there. Foundation looks well built, so it shouldn't be an issue there, but you probably can't go too much farther with the water there and that much water will take a while to completely dry out
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Anid730 -

Make up your mind if you are forcing a solution or getting a quality addition built in the end.

Pump out the water and let everything settle and make sure you have short term plans to divert drainage away from the hole. Sites take time to dry out. Document all costs, but be reasonable/realistic. If you do not correct, the job will drag out much longer than you want.

Make plans for the future addition you want to fit into the site you already have considering the code requirement for keeping the wood and siding above the finished grade. This will undoubtedly include site grading that may have not been considered in determining the responsibility between you and the contractor you hired without a plan.

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