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rms 07-17-2007 08:35 PM

Contractor + gas heater duct
We're having our kitchen remodeled. We keep having minor problems - which I won't go into here - and we are beginning to suspect that our general contractor is not keeping an eye on what is going on.

The latest problem is rather minor, but it may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, so we need some opinions on this.

The problem is that ducting to a outside vent was not installed. We have told both the GC and the guy doing the work several times that we wanted the ducting done. The vent outlet exists on the outer wall already, where it used to be connected to a dryer. During the remodel, they removed the ducting connected to it. We want a duct connected to it again - just a common piece of 4-inch ducting available at any hardware or home improvement store. ( FWIW, We're going to use it to vent a cat litter box in the service porch. )

It is now time to begin installing cabinets, and there is drywall over the place where the duct should be, and paint too. The GC says that nobody forgot about it, that they were planning to do it later.

They've done all of the other connections - electrical outlets, switches, lights, water lines, gas line, a/c & heater vents - each with their own box. Then they did insulation and drywall, tape & mud, and paint. The GC says that they haven't forgotton anything, that they were planning to do all that, then open up the wall again, and install the ducting ( and then, presumably, re-mud and re-paint. )

I think that they forgot, and that they are lying to us. What is your best guess? Is there any way that a sane construction worker would do things in this order, or are they lying to us?


Sammy 07-17-2007 08:41 PM

I would ask the GC first if he is not telling the truth...

But if you have the vent installation in writing, then he'll have to it it as part of the contract.

rms 07-17-2007 09:00 PM

Thanks, Sammy, but whether or not the contract requires it is not a great matter to me. It's a simple job - I can do it myself if necessary.
What matters to me is simply this: is it reasonable that a construction worker would plan to do things in this order? Or are they lying?

Ron6519 07-17-2007 11:32 PM

He forgot and he is trying to make it seem he didn't. Or he didn't forget and he's an idiot. He'll do it on his dime and you should take a deep breath and relax. It will all be over soon. No sense in getting bent because it will do no good. Just keep an eye on him like you've been doing.

AtlanticWBConst. 07-18-2007 05:09 AM

In remodeling and construction, venting is ALWAYS installed prior to closing up the walls. Sounds like "someone forgot".

He may not want to alarm you and is just going to go and install it after.

(FWIW: Even our workers have forgotten to do things. Our current electrician has forgotten to install ductwork on bathroom exhaust vents 2x - we ended up installing them for him, before the drywall went up)

Whatever the case, my advice is the same as Ron6519's:

......just let this one go, he's offering to take care of it....

rms 07-18-2007 05:40 PM

Thanks, Ron and Atlantic, for the opinions.

And thanks for the suggestions to let this one go. I'd love to. However, my wife wants to hire this GC in the future - which is what makes this issue important.

So, if anyone else wants to chime in with an opinion either way, please do - even if someone else has already said exactly what you were going to say; it's the total number of votes that will tend to sway future hiring decisions.

citybuilder 07-22-2007 02:46 AM

i dont think they are lying..maybe he does it afterwards...but now you should keep a close watch and after sometime keep reminding him!!
i personally feel that it should have been done earlier :)

rms 07-24-2007 08:24 PM

I finally installed the vent myself ( GC is behind schedule ). When I did it, I found not only drywall, but a layer of OSB under the drywall. So I'm rather sure that he did forget, and won't admit it.

Citybuilder: if you can explain how this might make sense, I'd love to hear it. As things stand now, GC is gonna get canned.

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