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olimazi 09-01-2011 12:44 PM

Concrete Steps Crumbling
 
Hey y'all,

I have some brick/concrete steps that lead to the yard out back that are starting to fall apart - mostly due to the hard winter we've had - and the pounding on them to remove ice buildup.

I'd like some opinions on how to fix this myself from materials readily available at Home Depot - we don't have cash for a mason to come in.
One corner is rather eroded and beyond patching, so I'm thinking something to support it, then patch around.

Here are the pics:

http://www.olimazi.350.com/mason1.jpg
http://www.olimazi.350.com/mason2.jpg
http://www.olimazi.350.com/mason3.jpg

Thanks in advance,
John

stadry 09-01-2011 01:05 PM

your best bet is to demo the steps & cast new,,, any apron/vest store stocks bagged conc mix,,, from the looks of them, any $ invested in repairs will be wasted imn-s-hfo :thumbup:

Bud Cline 09-01-2011 01:28 PM

As you can see past repairs have not held up and that unit is really too far gone to waste any more money on repairs. If you were to demo the whole thing I'll bet you would be surprised at how little it would cost to have a contractor form and pour a new "stoop".

Freeze/thaw will continue to deteriorate anything you do in the form of repairs at this point. Unfortunately that "unit" is gone.:yes:

olimazi 09-01-2011 02:19 PM

Hmmm
 
Thanks, if I were to 'waste' money on repairs, how would I repair it? :wink:

stadry 09-01-2011 02:31 PM

1st off, we're unsure IF those are conc steps w/brick margin outline OR block steps o'laid w/mortar & brick but whatever - 1st pressure wash all the dirt & plaster on some topping mix,,, expect that work to last o'nite OR til the 1st freeze/thaw cycle,,, & that's all the time i'll waist on this thread :laughing:

olimazi 09-01-2011 03:13 PM

Wood
 
Bud,

I'm thinking of 2 options:

1. Keep the stoop there and deck it over w/ wood
2. Remove the stoop and put in wood stoop.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
John


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 719403)
As you can see past repairs have not held up and that unit is really too far gone to waste any more money on repairs. If you were to demo the whole thing I'll bet you would be surprised at how little it would cost to have a contractor form and pour a new "stoop".

Freeze/thaw will continue to deteriorate anything you do in the form of repairs at this point. Unfortunately that "unit" is gone.:yes:


Bud Cline 09-01-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

I'm thinking of 2 options:

1. Keep the stoop there and deck it over w/ wood
2. Remove the stoop and put in wood stoop.

Either could be a viable option.:)

amuffly 09-01-2011 05:21 PM

IF you repair you would need to chip away until you found good solid concrete. Which looking at you pictures you might never find any. You can hire someone to pour stairs for a small fee. I would think that would look better and also last you a longer time. If this is a repair and sell the home type of deal then you could trowel on some concrete mortar and make it look like stucco.

Blondesense 09-01-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olimazi (Post 719470)
I'm thinking of 2 options:

1. Keep the stoop there and deck it over w/ wood
2. Remove the stoop and put in wood stoop.

Thoughts?

Not and expert, but I'd go with option #2 for two reasons.

1) Wood, even pressure treated wood, if resting on concrete will hold and wick up moisture causing it to rot prematurely.
2) If you raise it so it is not touching the concrete, it seems like an ideal spot for mice, spiders, wasps, etc., not to mention being difficult to clean.

jomama45 09-01-2011 07:21 PM

If you want to rebuild with concrete & brick, I'd suggest you start demoing the existing brick, and everything else that's loose. I know it doesn't seam like a sound plan at first, but you really need to get into it a ways to know what you have to work with.

olimazi 09-02-2011 09:08 AM

New pour quote...
 
The quotes I've been getting for a new stoop pour are between $1,000 and $1,500, not such a small fee... may take out and put wood.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amuffly (Post 719548)
IF you repair you would need to chip away until you found good solid concrete. Which looking at you pictures you might never find any. You can hire someone to pour stairs for a small fee. I would think that would look better and also last you a longer time. If this is a repair and sell the home type of deal then you could trowel on some concrete mortar and make it look like stucco.



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