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Old 03-02-2014, 08:29 PM   #1
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Please see the attached picture. The concrete step down to our deck is a little short - i.e. the run is only 5.5 inches. The rise is 7.75 inches and would really like to avoid going any higher.

Any ideas on what we should do here to make a "longer" step (e.g. run 9 to 12 inches)? I'd really like to have wood, but is it possible shave off one inch off the top of the step and place wood on top? Not sure how I would extend out though...

Or should I make the concrete step longer? i.e. bring it out an additional 5 inches or so?

Remove it completely and build a wood step? Other ideas?

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Old 03-02-2014, 08:55 PM   #2
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#1 The step never should have been even with the threshold.
Sure way to get water under the threshold and rot out the subflooring, bottom plate and rim joist. I've seen it hundreds of times.
It needed to be a minimum of 2" below it with proper flashing under the door.
No you can not add wood to a concrete stoop.
Wood needs air flow on all sides so it can dry out or it's going to rot and mold up.
I'd be concerned with how that thing was built in the first place.
If it's removed it looks like in that picture you would be opening up a big can of worms.
Looks like that step goes all the way under the door.

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Thanks for your reply! Completely agree with you about the step being even with the threshold - unfortunately this is how it was when we bought the house. Fortunately, the house comes out about two feet above the deck so the area stays dry.

What makes you concerned with how that thing was built in the first place?

Are you suggesting we don't change a thing?

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Contrary to what Joe said. I see no problem with what is in the pic. Every doorway has a threshold. Yours is a bit wider than many, but not a problem. The deck is below the threshold which it should be. Proper caulking/flashing of the door threshold will eliminate any water issues.
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I agree with Joe that the step should not be tight to the front of the threshold. Some thresholds have weepers there and that, in and of itself, is problematic.

If it isn't currently leaking, hopefully it won't start.

To extend the step, I suppose you could bolt a piece of PVC trim to the front of the step that is ripped down to the step height and get the extra depth that way.

I would bull nose the front of the trim as well.
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I wouldn't be living with that 5.5 inch potential ankle twisting area very long. I'd be finding some lumber that matched the deck and build an extended landing equal height to the concrete that two people could stand on comfortably and possibly a sitting bench incorporated to the left side.
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Ayuh,..... Aside from whether the threshold is right or not,...
(does it pitch away, out from the door?)

I see a simple 2x6 step screwed to the deck, up against the concrete, extendin' the step to 11" run, as posull is lookin' for,...

1, 2x6x the length of the lintel, lain flat(slight pitch away from the house), 'n 3 or 4 short legs to hold the tread at grade, 'n screwed down, so's it stays put,...

Simple, 'n Basic,....

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