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Marvin Gardens 10-09-2008 03:10 PM

Concrete and paver issue
 
I am pouring a pad for a sun room. Except for some framing and fill in areas the walls and ceiling will all be glass and weatherproof.

I was going to do a monolithic pour with the footers, pad and short walls (a few inches off the pad to put the sill plate.

Today she said she wanted pavers instead.

I want the area to be relatively free from dirt and water so I will go ahead with the pad to seal the floor.

Is it common to put pavers over a pad and if so should I put a layer of sand to keep them from moving and keep them level?

If this is fine I will have to put the pad deeper in the ground to keep the level of the floor so that we can just walk out to the back yard.

Termite 10-10-2008 09:40 AM

Pavers are often installed on top of concrete slabs, so it should work fine. I'd place them right on the concrete and would fill the gaps with sand as usual. This isn't uncommon. I think she'll regret going with pavers and not bricks with mortar joints...With this being a part of the interior of the house now, the sand will be carried into the house on peoples' shoes.

Marvin Gardens 10-10-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thekctermite (Post 170403)
Pavers are often installed on top of concrete slabs, so it should work fine. I'd place them right on the concrete and would fill the gaps with sand as usual. This isn't uncommon. I think she'll regret going with pavers and not bricks with mortar joints...With this being a part of the interior of the house now, the sand will be carried into the house on peoples' shoes.

Never thought about that. I will mention it to her. We have nice hardwood floors and sand is death to hard wood floors.

Why couldn't I mortar the pavers....hmmmmmm.

joed 10-10-2008 11:31 AM

Do they make thin pavers that could be install like tiles? Use thinset mortar and grout the joints.

What about stamped concrete to look like pavers?

Marvin Gardens 10-10-2008 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by joed (Post 170456)
Do they make thin pavers that could be install like tiles? Use thinset mortar and grout the joints.

What about stamped concrete to look like pavers?

Both good options. I will have to pursue both. My wife is the driving force here and I have to run everything past her for approval.

Termite 10-10-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin Gardens (Post 170495)
My wife is the driving force here and I have to run everything past her for approval.

Sounds like my house. :yes:

Marvin Gardens 10-10-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thekctermite (Post 170500)
Sounds like my house. :yes:

After 30 years I know who is the boss.

Actually we make a good team. Don't know if you saw the pics of my Happy Room but take a look. We designed that as we went along and it really turned out nice.

So I listen to her when it comes to this stuff. She has some really good ideas.

Gilbert Fitzgerald 10-14-2008 01:49 PM

I Am Putting Pavers On The Front Porch, I Am A Little Confused. How Do I Attach The Pavers To The Concrete Porch. I Am Using.... Type N Prosoco Mortor. Do I Use This Just Between The Pavers And Also Apply It To The Bottom Of The Pavers And How Thick? I Also Am Using The Prosoco To The Top To Seal.
Gil

jogr 10-14-2008 02:38 PM

MG,
Convince her that she wants tile with grout rather than pavers - but make sure it's her idea.

Marvin Gardens 10-14-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jogr (Post 172186)
MG,
Convince her that she wants tile with grout rather than pavers - but make sure it's her idea.

I can see you are married.

I will work on that and am good at finding ways to make it her idea. Nov 4th it will be the big 30 for us.

Marvin Gardens 10-14-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilbert Fitzgerald (Post 172170)
I Am Putting Pavers On The Front Porch, I Am A Little Confused. How Do I Attach The Pavers To The Concrete Porch. I Am Using.... Type N Prosoco Mortor. Do I Use This Just Between The Pavers And Also Apply It To The Bottom Of The Pavers And How Thick? I Also Am Using The Prosoco To The Top To Seal.
Gil

Pavers are meant to be put in place by gravity on a bed of sand. Then sand is put in between the pavers.

I guess you could use mortar but that is generally not the way it is done.

Coptool 10-14-2008 04:33 PM

Stamped concrete seems like it would be the easiest and there are some really good looking stamps you can rent. Add in some color and it'll look really nice and then you are done in 1 step.

Gilbert Fitzgerald 10-14-2008 04:48 PM

Pavers are already purchased and waiting to be used. Yes, married 53 years,and she convinces ME that it was my ideas, and as a smart man I let her.... lol ..
so pavers it is.... so my question is......................................
Do I use flexible, Type N Prosoco Mortor. Do I Use This Just Between The Pavers And Also Apply It To The Bottom and sides Of The Pavers And How Thick?
I Also Am Using The Prosoco To The Top To Seal.

yesitsconcrete 10-14-2008 07:02 PM

my bride of almost 1 year's her sister :furious: hopefully you got the 1 who can visualize as i didn't :censored: have to do it 1st then tear it down,,, oy ! ! !

Gilbert Fitzgerald 10-16-2008 12:54 AM

so my question is......................................
Do I use flexible, Type N Prosoco Mortor. Apply It To The Bottom Of The Pavers And How Thick?
Still need to know. I start tomorrow. I am not getting help from the hardware stores every has a maybe answer.
Also do I spread the dry mortor on after into the cracks of the paver and then just mist it with water.????????????
THANKS IN ADVANCE.


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