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Old 03-13-2012, 06:32 PM   #1
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Was ripping down old paneling on a home I purchased a little over a year ago and I found this.

The first pic you see a double 2x10 where one 2x10 was completely vertically transected. The main load on this as you may see in picture 2 is a triple 2x4 vertically resting on the header besting the load of the main roof beam. They tried to transfer some weight using the single 2x4 on the flat which is resting on a properly supported triple 2x8 in the basement.
How can I properly reinforce this?
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You have a real problem, maybe.

I would suggest an inspection by a local engineer.

He could determine that the one 2x10 is sufficient, maybe not.

Sorry.

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Just looking at the photos. I can go either way on yes you got a problem! Or Nope you AJ Squared away go to go. How ever with out being there and really seeing what you have going on. If you have the ceiling sagging the door sticking etc might indicate problems. The best answer is to hire a structural engineer and have them give you their blessing.
On a side note I bet you wish you never tore in to that now? I know were your coming from. I have found all sort of WTF stuff hid behind the walls. Then I wished I never opend that up!

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Was ripping down old paneling on a home I purchased a little over a year ago and I found this.

The first pic you see a double 2x10 where one 2x10 was completely vertically transected. The main load on this as you may see in picture 2 is a triple 2x4 vertically resting on the header besting the load of the main roof beam. They tried to transfer some weight using the single 2x4 on the flat which is resting on a properly supported triple 2x8 in the basement.
How can I properly reinforce this?

Didn't you post this a couple months ago?

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the squash blocks above the beam are pretty obvious.. the single stud below it is wrong.. it should be a triple also to properly carry the load from above
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Didn't you post this a couple months ago?

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Certainly possible Andy, not sure. Getting some decent conversation this time around.
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the squash blocks above the beam are pretty obvious.. the single stud below it is wrong.. it should be a triple also to properly carry the load from above
Which would also have to be carried through in the basement or crawl space.

Best get someone n to look at it.
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I have hired an Engeneering firm to check it out. I am always interested however, in what the DIY communities opinion is as well.
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I have hired an Engeneering firm to check it out. I am always interested however, in what the DIY communities opinion is as well.
My opinion is that the hvac guy did a real hack job on this. No good excuse for it.
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I have hired an Engeneering firm to check it out. I am always interested however, in what the DIY communities opinion is as well.
Why? His opinion out weighs all our ideas combined.
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Why? His opinion out weighs all our ideas combined.
I guess because it's how I learn to look at things, what to look for and so fourth. Plus your post was great, "Aren't you glad you opened that wall" made me laugh out loud. I knew I was going to have to have an Engineer guy look at things but I saw no harm in getting your guys educated opinions as well.
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My opinion is that the hvac guy did a real hack job on this. No good excuse for it.
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Well said Andy. Reminds me of a Holmes on Gone show lol

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