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Greenie 12-30-2012 11:30 AM

Cement or????
 
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Hello fellow DIY's. As you can see in the below photos I have an area where my trash cans rest. the area when it rains gets super muddy and almost impossible to walk through.

My question is what would you suggest I do to make it so it doesn't get all muddied up when it rains? Different ground material? Cement walk way? Stone? Gravel? As you can see it leads into the alley on the side of my house which is also dirt and there is a fence door separating the two areas. The fence that appears wet in the photo is the fence dividing my property and my neighbors property. This area butts up against te front of my house as well as a small stone enclosed planting area.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

joecaption 12-30-2012 11:40 AM

That fence was installed to close to the ground and will end up rotting if it's not fixed.
I'd use periable steping stones so they can drain and not just redirect the water againt the fence.

ddawg16 12-30-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1082545)
That fence was installed to close to the ground and will end up rotting if it's not fixed.
I'd use periable steping stones so they can drain and not just redirect the water againt the fence.

Ditto.....

Greenie 12-30-2012 12:33 PM

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Thank you. So what would u do for the current fence situation?

ddawg16 12-30-2012 12:46 PM

What is on the other side of the fence?

One of the keys to water control is getting the water away from where you don't want it. In your case, proper grading. Assuming this is the front of your house, you need to see if you can grade it a bit better to get the water to drain faster.

On the fence...if you can't lower the level of the ground, then either cut the bottom of the fence about 1" from the ground or remove the planks and re-attach 1" above the ground. Just doing that might help get the water away a bit faster......depending on what is on the other side of the fence.

As for what to put down....personally....I would put down pavers where the trash cans go and then steping stones up to the trash can. If you fix your water problem, you might be able to get grass to grow which will help control the mud.

joecaption 12-30-2012 01:32 PM

Snap a line 2" up from the ground and cut the pickets off.
The closest your going to get with a ciruler saw is 1-1/2, that why 2" will work better so it's not hitting the ground.

Greenie 12-30-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption
Snap a line 2" up from the ground and cut the pickets off.
The closest your going to get with a ciruler saw is 1-1/2, that why 2" will work better so it's not hitting the ground.

If I cut the pickets off. (Prob a silly question..). But then what's holding the fence in the ground.

Greenie 12-30-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ddawg16
What is on the other side of the fence?

One of the keys to water control is getting the water away from where you don't want it. In your case, proper grading. Assuming this is the front of your house, you need to see if you can grade it a bit better to get the water to drain faster.

On the fence...if you can't lower the level of the ground, then either cut the bottom of the fence about 1" from the ground or remove the planks and re-attach 1" above the ground. Just doing that might help get the water away a bit faster......depending on what is on the other side of the fence.

As for what to put down....personally....I would put down pavers where the trash cans go and then steping stones up to the trash can. If you fix your water problem, you might be able to get grass to grow which will help control the mud.

On the other side of the fence is my neighbors driveway. This is a dividing fence between me and my neighbor. This is on side of house away from house. Not front.

md2lgyk 12-30-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 1082604)
If I cut the pickets off. (Prob a silly question..). But then what's holding the fence in the ground.

Uh, the fence posts. You set your circular saw to a depth that will only cut the pickets (probably 3/4").

bigchaz 12-30-2012 03:18 PM

Can you get a picture of the neighbors side of the fence? It almost looks like they may have a board running along the ground to secure the slats since I can see through the entire middle portion

carpdad 12-31-2012 09:06 AM

First is it your fence? Good side facing you, in my area, that usually means your neighbor put up the fence. Also, doing anything to the ground so that water drains away from your house and possibly drains into neighbor's driveway (especially if icing is issue) can bring up disputes. I agree with pavers, wide spaced and limited so drainage is not changed. Another option to fence is you and your neighbor could agree on digging a small ditch under the fence and filling with gravel so there is less water that fence can wick.

Greenie 12-31-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by carpdad
First is it your fence? Good side facing you, in my area, that usually means your neighbor put up the fence. Also, doing anything to the ground so that water drains away from your house and possibly drains into neighbor's driveway (especially if icing is issue) can bring up disputes. I agree with pavers, wide spaced and limited so drainage is not changed. Another option to fence is you and your neighbor could agree on digging a small ditch under the fence and filling with gravel so there is less water that fence can wick.

Not sure. It was there before either of us moved in. Icing never an issue.

Basically I want to have an area that doesn't get all muddy where the 3 trash bins are so when we throw trash out we don't bring mud back in the house. Moving the cans and the water on the fence brought up new "issues". Lol.

Greenie 12-31-2012 12:13 PM

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Can you get a picture of the neighbors side of the fence? It almost looks like they may have a board running along the ground to secure the slats since I can see through the entire middle portion

Here is neighbor side

Greenie 01-03-2013 05:07 PM

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Ok. Here is update... Dug a trench for a drain pipe as seen in photos below. Also trenched out a space to cut the fence by 1-2". Now I'm taking suggestions and recommendations as to the next step.... This area is where I put my three large trash bins during the week. I would like to put down brick or stone or something so that the bins can sit on it during the week as well as slope it to the middle a bit so that when it does rain it collects in the drain I put in and runs off in the bushes. Ultimate goal is to fix the fence and prevent rot and more importantly, create a dry/ mud free area for the trash bins.

Please me know your thoughts and how you would proceed.

Greenie 01-04-2013 01:17 AM

not sure if my last update went out with the new server being updated. Anyone?


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