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Old 09-21-2009, 07:14 PM   #16
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We had another thread on here with the same discussion
In that case it was a Cape with knee walls
Seems we get this issue a lot on here

I'm curious as to the difference between rafter ties & collar ties
From what I have read, rafter ties must be in the bottom 1/3 of the rafter
Collar ties are usually in the top 1/3 but may be as low as mid-way?

So when does a collar tie become a rafter tie?
When it is in the bottom 1/3?

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:35 PM   #17
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:38 PM   #18
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Front of cabin was going to be porch but I closed it in note 6x6 run two sec story tying walls in.
Unclear.....you were going to have a front porch...but closed it in
Then the pics show a front porch

So did you then add a front porch?
So the 6x6's run from 1st floor to the roof?
Just in the front for the 6x6's from what I can see

I think if you had run studs all the way up as balloon framing it would have been better?

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I do have simpson rafter u ties at the and of ever rafter is this what you mean and are the collar ties doing nothing.Very dangerous how so do you think there is a real sign of danger would I not see signs of cracks in dry wall finsh and paint?Also I put the ties on the outside with simpson nails.rafter tie model rt 15 usp NO BIRDS MOUTH!

You did not cut any birds mouth in the rafters?
Why?
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:03 PM   #19
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Look close at the pics the porch was closed in then put a new one on.Yes 6x6 run to sec story just in front. This cabin is in north west pa we have had two feet of snow at times only a little sits on roof because of pitch I have had no problems yet but after reading some threads I had concern.The ceiling is all dry wall with no cracks in finish also no cracks in finished walls if it where not sound would I not see this.Also after collar tie is in place rafter only spans 9 ft.
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OK, I know those 6x6's at the front will help keep the front from spreading
But of course a gable end the walls/rafters at that point will be held in.....
It's the middle you need to worry about
It doesn't happen right away...usually...hopefully
It's sagging over time.....

My attic was going to be a cathedral ceiling
They wanted (3) 16" LVL's to span 24' 6" - to give you an idea of the support required
And my addition was attached to the rest of my house

You are spanning 28'
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yes 28 feet also where porch was going to be that wall is now 8 ft in and runs the width of the building .From that interior wall to the loft beam is 10 ft, from beam to end gable wall is 10 ft.loft beam is nailed on top of wall.So will the loft beam help hold walls and interior wall as well, and are we only talk now about the ten feet of wall in front of the loft.thank you

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Did not sleep well last night had visions of camp falling down.Can I put a ridge beam under the ridge board with 6x6 post under it at edge of loft above other 6x6 post. But how do I tie IT in at ends with out using posts from floor too ceiling windows and doors are there.IF theirs a will theirs a way!!!

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