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cprao 04-23-2011 10:25 AM

Carport to Garage
 
I currently have a carport and I intend to change this to a garage. This carport is enclosed from two sides. Only front and back are open.
So I want to close the backside of the carport with a matching wall to my house exterior wall. Obviously I wll put a new garage doors in the front.

Now the questions are -
1) What kind of contractor I should be looking to get this job done ? Stucco contractor or drywall contractor ?

2) I am not sure what is there in city records. If it is listed as carport in city records, I should be getting permit from city, right ?

3) Are there any hints, what are all the right questions, I would be asking the contractor to make sure he is taking care of all the right things ?

Appreciate your help.

Ron6519 04-23-2011 03:10 PM

You would get a Remodeling contractor. You would need to determine if the proper footings and foundation are in place to convert this structure. The plans might be on file in your local building dept. If the foundation is proper, it will be a much easier job.
Ron

cprao 04-23-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 635071)
You would get a Remodeling contractor. You would need to determine if the proper footings and foundation are in place to convert this structure. The plans might be on file in your local building dept. If the foundation is proper, it will be a much easier job.
Ron

All the footing and foundation seems to be on order.
It looks like this requires framing and stucco. What all the things contractor needs to do to make sure all are in place.

Like one contractor said -it requires 3 coats of stucco.. what does that mean?
Why 3 coats is required ? what kind of framing nees to be used 2X4's ?
I would like to some understanding on these aspects so that I can be assured the guy is doing the right job.

Ron6519 04-23-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 635077)
All the footing and foundation seems to be on order.
It looks like this requires framing and stucco. What all the things contractor needs to do to make sure all are in place.

Like one contractor said -it requires 3 coats of stucco.. what does that mean?
Why 3 coats is required ? what kind of framing nees to be used 2X4's ?
I would like to some understanding on these aspects so that I can be assured the guy is doing the right job.

So in the last 15 minutes, you went outside, dug down below the frostline and examined the footings and foundation? That's impressive.
I don't think you need my help, you seem to have everything under control.
Ron

havalife 04-23-2011 04:00 PM

Like Ron Had mentioned, get a contractor. Get at least 3 bids meet them inperson and listen to what they say and how they explain what needs to be done. Check the bids carefully and make sure they all covered everthing that needs to be done. Don't always take the low bid... If you haven't figured it out some things are best left to the pros.

Joe Carola 04-23-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 635077)
All the footing and foundation seems to be on order.

How would you know that?

cprao 04-23-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Carola (Post 635092)
How would you know that?

Good Question. First of all the carport is attached to the house which indicates to me it is on the same foundation.

Another thing is - A contractor came by a few minutes back and gave me a quote - He says, it needs framing. Inside will be drywall and outside would be stucco matching & connecting to my house exterior wall.

Due to the above two reasons - I said the foundation is proper.

Hpoe this explains.

Joe Carola 04-23-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 635096)
Good Question. First of all the carport is attached to the house which indicates to me it is on the same foundation.

That doesn't mean anything. A carport doesn't have the same footings and foundation as a house.

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Another thing is - A contractor came by a few minutes back and gave me a quote - He says, it needs framing. Inside will be drywall and outside would be stucco matching & connecting to my house exterior wall.
How does he know the footings and foundation are ok? B y the same assumption you have? Get another contractor.

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Due to the above two reasons - I said the foundation is proper.

Well, you're wrong. You have to dig down and see how far down the footings and foundation go. You keep thinking that all you need to do is build walls and are not listening to the fact that you can't do anything unless you have proper footings and foundation.

Gary in WA 04-23-2011 11:10 PM

I doubt very much the perimeters of the slab for the carport are deep/thick/wide enough to support walls when initially poured. You will likely need a permit for this conversion because of the seismic area. This is also important for the paper trail for your Insurance coverage and if you ever sell the place in the future. Hold-downs, shear walls and roof ties are required. Check with the County first, they handle most property taxes and the City handles the permits (usually).

Gary

AndyGump 04-23-2011 11:50 PM

Just as Gary said plus some. When converting a car-port to a garage, especially one that is attached to a house and in California there are many considerations that go into building a proper garage.
Will there be a door to the house?
Is there presently any drywall on the garage/house wall? Will there be?
Will you be putting a washer/dryer combo out there?
Lots to think abut if you need it done correctly and to code.

Andy.

And what is a "hardness zone"?

fireguy 04-24-2011 12:57 PM

You first need to determine the scope of the project. Then you need to find how your carport was built, thickness of slab, footings size and depth. Will the foundation support the weight of the new framing, and roof? Now, this will come as a shock, but you will need to spend some money to find out these things. Qualified contractors will need to be paid money to determine the viability of your project.

cprao 05-20-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyGump (Post 635332)
Just as Gary said plus some. When converting a car-port to a garage, especially one that is attached to a house and in California there are many considerations that go into building a proper garage.
Will there be a door to the house?
Is there presently any drywall on the garage/house wall? Will there be?
Will you be putting a washer/dryer combo out there?
Lots to think abut if you need it done correctly and to code.

Andy.

And what is a "hardness zone"?

Thank you Andy for all the good questions. Finally, I think, I found answers for most of the things here.

1. Went to City and in their record, it is a carport. Hence I need to get framing approval and electrical approval. Also they would check the foundation whether or not it meets the current code. Even though I have foundation (don't know really) that will still not meed the code since the foundatin code is changed in 1990 and my house is built in 1970.
Hence either I have to lay the foundation or upgrade the foundation to meet the code.

2. Currently though wall is shared between carport and house there is no door attached to it.

3. The shared wall is a drywall.
4. I am not sure about dryer/washer, but I am definitely going to move my tak water heater to garage.

Other than that no other plans, except using the remaining space to store tools.

My hardniess zone is - 8 - 10.

cprao 05-20-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fireguy (Post 635610)
You first need to determine the scope of the project. Then you need to find how your carport was built, thickness of slab, footings size and depth. Will the foundation support the weight of the new framing, and roof? Now, this will come as a shock, but you will need to spend some money to find out these things. Qualified contractors will need to be paid money to determine the viability of your project.

Thats waht I am doing right now.. scoping the project.. see whether it fits my pocket or not..

AndyGump 05-20-2011 11:29 PM

You are in the LA area right?

Shoot me an email, I know a couple of really good contractors in your area.
Send me a scope of work and I might be able to give you some preliminary budget numbers.

I hit a button and am getting italicized letters now. Weird.

Andy.

AndyGump 05-21-2011 12:01 AM

Ah yes "hardiness" zone. That is for plantings and whatnot right?

You are seismic zone D-sub0 or D-sub1 which is more significant for your purposes.

Andy.


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