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Old 05-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #1
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I want an extra two feet so I can work on the front of my Ford Galaxie with the garage door closed. My plan is to put in a header four feet up on the back wall, then back the car up under the header. Outside I would add new studs angling two feet outwards and attach them with studs to the header.

I don't want to support the extension from the ground, I would like to have the two foot floor come out horizontally from the plate on the concrete and hang from studs attached to the angled studs. There won't be weight on the floor.




Is this a practical plan?

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Pratical? No. If your going to add 2'....might as well build out the whole wall and go 4'. Then you would also have some storage above....

Or, just build a new garage....that is what I did.

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Trying to cantilever out like that is just not going to work out, it will sag and could cause the back wall to bow out at the top and push in at the bottom.
All the load is being transfured down to the unsupported bottom horizontal pieces.
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....Is this a practical plan?

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also consider ultimate replacement of this vehicle. perhaps the new one won't fit in this spot? or will you forever be beholden to cars that fit these dimensions? better to push the whole wall out.
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Trying to cantilever out like that is just not going to work out, it will sag and could cause the back wall to bow out at the top and push in at the bottom.
All the load is being transfured down to the unsupported bottom horizontal pieces.
Thanks Joe for your thoughtful reply. I see what you mean about "pushing in" on the new header. Suppose over the jack studs I ran some 2x4s from the top plate to the bottom sill? Then I could let the horizontal members press against those, to distribute the load? or angle some 2x4 from the sill under jack studs up and out to support the angled wall?

Still looking for a way to make this work!
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Sorry, not going to happen long term.
Far better to add on as suggested as suggested.
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maybe you should get rid of the Ford Galaxie and get a chevy that you dont have to work on
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I do not see why you could not header the back wall at the appropriate height and just keep it open from there down to the floor, with a 2' deep box built to close in the space. not sure what is behind the back wall but the 2' box would have to go into what ever room is located on the opposite side of the back wall.
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You really need a wood stretcher. All kidding aside, if you are trying to do a Lean Too, you will need to most likely have to pour a footing & then put down a slab to keep the weather and critters out. What are the dimensions of the current space, and do you happen to have pictures to show everyone what you have now?
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Oh....wait....Ford Galaxie....

Why didn't I think of this before......just remove the front and rear bumpers....that will give you at least 2-3' of space...
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Had a neighbour who did something like that. Except he went right to the ground.
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I can't put footers down because of a 5 foot setback rule (pic).

The ceilings are 10 foot so the new hanging wall would have a 6:2 slope. The header would be 8 foot 2 x 12s with 1/2" ply. Additional mitigation steps could be birdsmouth all the hanging rafters to a board but then leave out the certer horizontal members, transferring their push-n pressure to the ends. Or jam something in the angle at the top to transfer weight from the angled studs to the vertical ones.

Are there structural problems besides the header push-in effect?

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What about going the other way (forward) with the space?
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puttster,
Where are you located?

How you would build this would be different in Minnesota vs. Arizona.

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