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Old 03-08-2008, 08:55 PM   #1
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Can you glue drywall to painted conrete block pillars?


I have two support pillars in the basement that are made of concrete blocks that are painted with a waterbased flat paint.

Would I be able to glue drywall to them?
I did not frame them as they are part of a soffit that I framed and could not figure out how to do it at the time.

Now, I need to cover them and was thinking of glueing the drywall. It that doesn't work, then may wallpaper?

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Are you able to glue some wood strips onto the pillars with a suitable construction adhesive and then, once it's cured, attach the drywall onto the wood strips with 1" drywall screws? Gluing drywall onto anything really only glues the sheet of paper on the drywall to the concrete so it's conceivable that the drywall can separate over time. Screws go through the drywall and will be much more secure and longlasting. Just a thought.

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As stated, consider "gluing" 3/4" furring strips or 5/8" strapping onto the brick. Allow to cure, then attach the sheetrock, using 1" drywall screws...

Another option would be to cut down plywood sheets, and install over the pillars, and then attach the sheetrock to that.

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I use tile mastic to glue sheetrock to brick, block surfaces all the time. Trowel it on with a notched trowel, and support it until dry. Pity the sucker who has to remove it some day.
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I would not hesitate to do as Troubleseeker suggested. My first thought was to say the same...because it is such a small area. It's not like you are putting up a big heavy whole sheet.

Trouble's idea of complete adhesive coverage using mastic and a notched trowel, does sound like the way to go.
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I like this mastic idea, and I guess I could also glue the furring strips too.
If I glue the furring strips do I use construction adhesive.

What is mastic? Is it the stuff that you lay tiles with?
Is there just one kind of mastic out there that I would ask for?

They are approx. 12 inches square pillars. I think this just may work.

Thanks very much.

Also, they are painted with a flat water based paint. Would the mastic still stick to it?
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Gluing the drywall or furring to the posts will only be as strong a bond as the paint has to the concrete blocks.
I would mechanically fasten the furring to the concrete blocks as an added precaution in case the paint doesn't have a good bond with the block(Pealing or chalking of the paint surface)

A good construction adhesive can be purchased in caulking sized tubes or by the gallon,depending on how much you need.
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I would use furring strips, you still have to cornerbead the drywall and install baseboards, which can be difficult if you're boarding directly over the block.
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I like this mastic idea, and I guess I could also glue the furring strips too.
If I glue the furring strips do I use construction adhesive.

What is mastic? Is it the stuff that you lay tiles with?
Is there just one kind of mastic out there that I would ask for?

They are approx. 12 inches square pillars. I think this just may work.

Thanks very much.

Also, they are painted with a flat water based paint. Would the mastic still stick to it?
Although this is a rather strange technique, I used it back in Brooklyn years ago to conceal an ugly vertical steel girder in a basement where drilling and screws were obviously not an option. Given today's technology in adhesives, this method is probably considered Rube Goldberg-ish.

Using firring strips, I created four simple equally-spaced frames that went around the girder and that fit snugly up against it. In between each frame, I inserted vertical firring strips. Back then, I fastened them together with wood glue and sheetrock nails. Who had a screwgun?

When I was done, I had a firring strip skeleton that hugged the girder but was not actually attached to it. Rather, it was firmly attached AROUND it. I then nailed some paneling onto the skeleton and viola!
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Ok, YM...are you confused, as to which method to use, yet?.

The most often applied method for framing something like that, in residential/industrial/commercial applications, is to not apply the sheetrock to the block at all. Rather, framing around the block pillar using either:

1.) Steel Framing: 2x2 steel framing with steel corners (for the corners). Attaching the sheetrock, to tie it all togther.

2.) Using wood: 2x3 framed around the block on all 4 sides. S/R attached to that.

3.) Wood Variation: 2x3 framing on 2 sides of the block pillar, 3/4" plywood installed to span the other 2 sides and attach to the ends of the 2x3 sections.
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Ok, YM...are you confused, as to which method to use, yet?.

The most often applied method for framing something like that, in residential/industrial/commercial applications, is to not apply the sheetrock to the block at all. Rather, framing around the block pillar using either:

1.) Steel Framing: 2x2 steel framing with steel corners (for the corners). Attaching the sheetrock, to tie it all togther.

2.) Using wood: 2x3 framed around the block on all 4 sides. S/R attached to that.

3.) Wood Variation: 2x3 framing on 2 sides of the block pillar, 3/4" plywood installed to span the other 2 sides and attach to the ends of the 2x3 sections.
Atlantic, I think I will go with glueing the furring strips and them attaching, the drywall to them.

This would give me the corners where I can install the corner beading.

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I would use furring strips, you still have to cornerbead the drywall and install baseboards, which can be difficult if you're boarding directly over the block.
adave, I think I am going to go with this, as you have a good point about the corner bead.

Decision made.
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What would I use to adhere the furring strips?
Construction adhesive?


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What would I use to adhere the furring strips?
Construction adhesive?


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PL Polyurethane Premium Construction Adhesive should do nicely. You can buy it in the 10.2 oz caulking gun cartridge size in any of the home centers and also ACE.

Here's a link to the product:

http://www.stickwithpl.com/Products/...PLProductID=14
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PL Polyurethane Premium Construction Adhesive should do nicely. You can buy it in the 10.2 oz caulking gun cartridge size in any of the home centers and also ACE.

Here's a link to the product:

http://www.stickwithpl.com/Products/...PLProductID=14

Thanks a lot End Grain. I will look for that product.

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