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Old 07-24-2012, 11:03 AM   #16
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Where did everyone go? I want a couple more opinions.

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Don't know what you're looking for there ryanxo. Pretty cut and dry case.. It is very rare to have a bearing wall with a truss roof. Especially with your 26' span. Trusses are designed so the weight is transferred through the exterior walls in most cases. It does appear that the home was built in the late 90's and the framer wasn't familiar with the proper truss connections to interior non-load bearing walls. Depending on when the home was built the use of STC or DTC clips might not have even been common as well as the H2.5 clips being a requirement.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #18
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C house was built in the 70s. 76 so who knows what they were thinking back then.

I feel pretty safe taking out the wall I was just looking for the opinions of the people from the first day since they said they wouldn't say until I said what the SE said.
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Where did everyone go? I want a couple more opinions.
You do realize there are 158,965 members on the DIY forum. Not sure how many different opinions you would get.
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I want a couple more opinions.
You have had quite a few opinions, but no-one here has actually seen the job and the only one who can give an informed opinion is an SE on site.

For what it's worth, my guess is that it is probably ok to remove it as the trusses are probably spanning external wall to external wall. But dont rip the nails out of the bottom chord of the truss - use a hacksaw to cut them.

Earlier on, I raised the possibility of it being a shear wall. These are designed and positioned to give overall stability to the house in case of seismic shocks or high winds. It may or may not be a shear wall - only an SE on site would be in a position to say one way or the other.
If it is a shear wall and you don't have any high winds, you'll be fine. If it is a shear wall and you do have high winds, then it's anyone's guess.

The best you can do is to go with what the SE says, but ultimately only you can decide what to do.

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If it was a shear wall you would be able to see the plywood on the wall and then the sheetrock over/butting to it. The closeup photo only shows the ceiling sheetrock therefore there was no sheathing installed on the wall prior to sheetrock installation. Since the home was built in the 70's it probably isn't up to code standards anyway as far as shear walls, gable bracing, and hurricane ties. If that is something that concerns you, then maybe it should be addressed.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:48 PM   #22
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danpik yes I realize that. It's a wide variety of knowledge which is why I wanted lots of opinions and I thank everyone that has contributed. If they ever need computer assistance I'd be more than happy to offer my IT expertise.

Thanks for the shear wall input. There definitely isnt any plywood near this wall. It's all just sheetrock over 2x4.

Would it do any good to take the 2x4 from the top of the wall I'm removing and nail it to the top of the bottom board of the trusses in the attic? I'm assuming no but construction isn't my expertise haha.

Again thanks to everyone for their inputs. I definitely appreciate it and yes I realize that no one can make a 100% accurate call on whether or not it is load bearing. If there are any other pics I can take that would help in the call let me know though.

Right now I'm removing all the sheetrock from the wall and leaving the 2x4s until my contractor comes out next week. I figure worst case scenario he has to put in a header beam.
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"The SE said that it was not load bearing especially since the trusses were only 23 inches apart on center across the entire house."
- The spacing has nothing to do with it being load bearing, They could be 12" apart (yes I have seen this) and still be load bearing.


"The truss being nailed to the wall worried me a bit too but the SE just told me to be careful taking out the wall since there were nails from the truss to that wall. He didn't seem concerned. The architect said I could take it down no issue too."
- Glad you got it checked out by someone on site they are truely the only ones who can say as they can see it all.

So mae-ling... you said you would answer after I said what the SE said. Whatcha got?
My guess from your pictures is that it probably was not a Load bearing wall.
As they are W or Fink trusses, Unless there was a girder truss we were not seeing that landed on that wall or a post in the wall.
I am not familiar with Sheer walls in my area, but know that could be an issue.


"And btw I wasn't going to take the wall down solely on the advice of people on a forum. I asked a SE and an architect. My friend who is a general contractor is coming out this week to check it too."
Better careful than sorry

"I always like to post questions I have like this on the DIY forum just to get some added opinions and hope that it may help others who have the same question. Is anyone on here actually an architect or a SE?"
- There are some, not me just a carpenter with 22 years experience.
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Even 4 years ago we nailed interior walls to trusses, man we we slow to learn or what!
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Mae-ling,

I still know builders that do even after being told not to and the reason why .... sometimes they love the slow curve and still don't hit the ball
part of life I guess
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #26
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Well I removed the walll... Figured I would post up a few pics of the project as I'm going through it.

Here's the wall after we had a little fun beating it up.





A little more sheetrock ripped off!



Then I got excited tearing wall out and didn't take pics for a while till I got to here...


Then I took out most of the 2x4s....



I took the double post at the end out and now just have the outlet one up there. The only thing that concerned me was that above the end post there the truss was doubled up over that one spot but the rest of them are single. So far it's fine though and it's been down for 3 days. Contractor friend that I had come look at it told me it would be fine.

I'll post more pics after I get the sheetrock fixed, outlets moved, and floor fixed so everyone can see the finished project.

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