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Old 02-25-2014, 10:35 AM   #16
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Without being able to bring up the normal sized photo, it is hard to tell anything from those Thumbnails.

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I hope these pics are better. you can see what i'm talking about here and these appear to be right under my 2 walls above. This is why I think one may be in the wrong location.
As for putting a plate that is a possibility I will look into. But these are not connected together at this time.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:58 PM   #18
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This appears to be new construction. There should be building plans on file, stating the beam & footer information. I would get a hold of the construction company that built the house at this point, and bring their GC in, regarding your questions about doing something with going from three to one support column.
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gregzoll: thanks for the all the info it has been a great help.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:20 AM   #20
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I see some sistered 2X? above and to the left of the jack post in the first picture and some more 2X? in the second photo. If these are part of support columns then the jack post should be under them to act as a support to the foundation. If the building was built according to engineered plans then there should be footers poured under the floor to support these columns. When you find the drawings filed to get the permit to build there should be a foundation plan that will show these footers.
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Best way to find footings is to drill some small holes in concrete.
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Here is the plan overlaid on the floor above. Any suggestions? I do not think I will be able to move both but maybe one as there is a footing there.
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Need them as two separate drawings. Can you please re-post both drawings separately. Having them overlaid like that, hides a lot of pertinent information.
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My guess is that they expected a T wall of 2x6 or two walls of 2x4 with a space between, and on opposite sides of those columns, if someone decided to finish that space.

Is there even a angle plate welded on both sides of the beams, where they meet?
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no they are not plated together. I will try and post them separated but I have to keep them under 100KB which is hard.
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Post them to a Dropbox account, then post the link here. You can also do it with Google Doc's and box.com. I do not know if box.com still offers the 50gb, but you can check.
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here is the main floor. hope this works
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hope the basement one works.
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Looks like they were supposed to be on the same Center Line. Post picture #1 & #2 as full shots if you can. As for those chalk lines, to me they look like they were marking the wall lines above, but hard to tell from your two photos.

I think that if you can get a Panoramic shot of the area from wall to the other, showing the poles at where they meet floor and ceiling, then they can be matched to the floor plans.

I would say that if you plan on finishing that space, I would look at having some angle brackets manufactured and welded on the beams, and see if an engineer would allow just one Box post at the one location, vs. three. If they state that you have to have all three, you need to get them all on the center line, then make up a 2x6 wall to hide the Lally columns inside.

Why they just put them up as a temp support, never embedded them in the floor when it was poured, makes even me wonder if they did a proper footing. Can you find out from the City Engineer if he marked off on the footers when they were poured.

I would be tempted also to not drill into the floor, but find someone that can do some other type of check to see if the footer is in that spot. The worse the engineer could do is go after the contractor and tell them they screwed up and gig them for this after the fact.

Those columns do need to be embedded in the concrete, not as they are as temp support columns.
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That is a lot of good info the plans were in archive as the house is 11 years old. I will have to go to the city to get a engineer to come in and take a look and sort this out. I will be able to fine out who signed off on this as well.
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