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Old 04-07-2008, 07:52 PM   #1
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Can I get away with only doing 2 coats of mud on my ceiling if I plan to do a textured finish? Please say yes.......

Also, if I am doing a textured ceiling, do I have to really sand in between coats? Please say no.........


I really hate taping the ceiling, since I have a million seams.......
I really like doing the walls. I find them rather easy.

I will do 3 coats on the walls, as required, but for the ceiling, if there is any slight chance that I can get away with it, I will.

Thanks very much everyone, you are all so helpful.
I would never have been able to get this far without all of your help.

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Old 04-07-2008, 08:12 PM   #2
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You are not "required" to do anymore than neccessary to provide the level of quality the customer wants and what it takes the mudder to get there.

I know a couple guys that are 2 coat guys everywhere. They are good and that is what it takes them to provide a quality finish.

I have seen guys do only 1 coat on a texture finish if they pay attention to what they are doing and with no sanding.

I suppose most of it would depend upon your abilities.

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Old 04-07-2008, 09:40 PM   #3
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That depends on how smooth your two coats are, and how rough a texture you plan on. Heavy acoustic will cover almost anything, but you will loath the day you put it on the first time you have to repaint. I would suggest taking the time for a better floating job, and some other texture besides acoustic. It is also nasty stuff to put crown moulding against.
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Thank for all your help.

Considering this is my first time with taping, the ceiling, after one coat, looks ok. I'm hoping that the next will be good enough for it to be my last.


I also, plan on putting crown molding, trim, and was thinking of putting it on after I put the drywall primer on and then do the texture on the ceiling.
Or else, as you stated it would not be pleasant trying to put it on over the texture.
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Do a finish coat on it. Ceilings show up imperfections, as if there were spot lights on them. As stated, if your skip the finish coat and texture it, and can still see the seam areas, you will be kicking your self every time you enter that area...
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Atlantic, by finish coat you mean a third coat?
What is the difference between a finish coat, and a second coat? Do I use different mud for finish coat.

And yes, if I see the seams I will kick myself......
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Atlantic, by finish coat you mean a third coat?
What is the difference between a finish coat, and a second coat? Do I use different mud for finish coat.

And yes, if I see the seams I will kick myself......
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These are the seam-coating steps:

1st Coat: Apply paper tape, wipe down.

2nd Coat: Approximately 6" to 10" wide. This is a filler coat. It will shrink considerably

3rd Coat: Wider, thinner. It is the "finish coat". We prefer to use a light weight compound for this (Blue topped bucket).

Sand after the finish coat.
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Is this for your basement project? If so, stay away from heavily textured ceilings with low clearances - they scrape knuckles.
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YM,

These are the seam-coating steps:

1st Coat: Apply paper tape, wipe down.

2nd Coat: Approximately 6" to 10" wide. This is a filler coat. It will shrink considerably

3rd Coat: Wider, thinner. It is the "finish coat". We prefer to use a light weight compound for this (Blue topped bucket).

Sand after the finish coat.

I guess I cannot use the all purpose for the finish coat? That is what I am using now, all purpose.

Also, Atlantic, I bought some drywall primer and on the bucket it says
Drywall Primer, acrylic latex. Is this the right one?

Thanks very much.
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Is this for your basement project? If so, stay away from heavily textured ceilings with low clearances - they scrape knuckles.
Thank Leah, the ceilings are low, but not low enough to scrape knuckles, unless some tall basketball player comes down there.
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I scraped the small of my back on a textured ceiling once. Oh, to be young again! That thing hurt for a month.
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I scraped the small of my back on a textured ceiling once. Oh, to be young again! That thing hurt for a month.
What were you doing that the small of your back was up against the ceiling?!?!?!?!?!?!
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I guess I cannot use the all purpose for the finish coat? That is what I am using now, all purpose.

Also, Atlantic, I bought some drywall primer and on the bucket it says
Drywall Primer, acrylic latex. Is this the right one?

Thanks very much.
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You can use the all purpose for the finish coat. There is nothing wrong with using that. Infact, it is what we used all-around, before they came out with the light weight compound. (I recommended the light weight as a step up).

Don't worry about it.

As far as the primer goes, it sounds like you have the right kind.

Good Luck.
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What were you doing that the small of your back was up against the ceiling?!?!?!?!?!?!

I am kind of curious too.......... Back against the ceiling.....?????????
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Two college kids (me and DH) + home-made loft in a dorm room = ceiling rash.

!WOW! That was over 12 years ago, I must be getting OLD! At least I have the memories. tee-hee.

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