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nateshirk 09-27-2013 01:02 PM

Can I frame a wall with 2x2's?
 
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There's exactly 4.5" from the block wall to the edge of the doorway. there's no way I'll be able to frame a 2x4 wall with xps on the wall without it protruding into the door way. I'd rather not even go more than 4" total because the door latch will rub the wall. Now that I think about it, I think I've heard of people using furring on top of the XPS. Could I just do that?

cortell 09-27-2013 01:08 PM

See http://www.diychatroom.com/f19/furri...nt-wall-93728/

danpik 09-27-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nateshirk (Post 1247050)
There's exactly 4.5" from the block wall to the edge of the doorway. there's no way I'll be able to frame a 2x4 wall with xps on the wall without it protruding into the door way. I'd rather not even go more than 4" total because the door latch will rub the wall. Now that I think about it, I think I've heard of people using furring on top of the XPS. Could I just do that?

There is a product out there called wallmate http://building.dow.com/na/en/produc...n/wallmate.htm
I used it in my basement 15 years ago and have had no issues with it in that time frame. I recently had to do another part of the basement and could not find it localy, so I just bought 2' x 8' 1.5" and made my own by running the edges thru my table saw

joecaption 09-27-2013 07:19 PM

2 X 2's tend to just split when screwed or nailed.
If any wood comes in contact with concrete it needs to be pressure treated.
If you have to use pressure treated then all fasteners will need to be ACQ approved.

wkearney99 09-28-2013 10:04 AM

What's less work here? Half-arse the wall or simply narrow the door a bit? It'd seem less hassle to deal with the door than to end up with a poorly set up all...

And by 'deal with the door' I mean either just narrow it a bit by shaving off a few inches from the hinge side and the top and just move the strike side in a bit. Or get a new pre-hung door if a narrower one would be a problem.

woodworkbykirk 09-28-2013 10:46 AM

bills right, the 2x2's will warp and twist when they dry out.. the wall will be wavy as all hell

Gary in WA 09-29-2013 01:14 PM

Against XPS the 2x2 will be stable and fully supported if fastened properly...use kd, not "green" or pt. Or simply use 1x2's with thinner foamboard only under the studs rather than full thickness (as said). Thickness depends on location, which Zone are you in? http://energycode.pnl.gov/EnergyCode...e=Pennsylvania

Gary

nateshirk 09-30-2013 06:47 AM

I live in central Pa.

Maintenance 6 09-30-2013 11:05 AM

Is the block wall inside or outside? What will the finish material be?

nateshirk 09-30-2013 03:29 PM

It's an outside wall that was done incorrectly, and I'm redoing it, but there's no room to frame a 2x4 wall with 1/2in. drywall.

Maintenance 6 09-30-2013 08:43 PM

Then I would fir it out with 1x2 furring strips or 2x2s and fill the spaces in between with Styrofoam insulation and drywall over it. Use flathead Tapcons to attach the furring.

wkearney99 10-01-2013 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nateshirk (Post 1248106)
It's an outside wall that was done incorrectly, and I'm redoing it, but there's no room to frame a 2x4 wall with 1/2in. drywall.

Because of just the door? Or more than that?

Ralph Coolong 10-01-2013 06:57 AM

Make sure the block wall never gets damp? If the blocks get damp I see future problems. If your wall always remains dry go for it. Building a wall out is simple and you can use just about any size lumber . Good luck

mikegp 10-01-2013 08:27 AM

If worried about 2x2's warping then just lay 2x4's on their side. I don't see the big deal there. How long is this wall? Will there be any electrical placed inside? You could always build a traditional 2x4 wall and then make a narrower well starting maybe 3 ft before the door. I personally would just move the door unless there is something preventing this.

cortell 10-01-2013 10:06 AM

The warping thing doesn't make sense to me. Sure, it's near impossible to find a straight 2x2 on the shelf. But if it's installed straight and fastened 12" OC..where is that wood going to go? I don't think a 2x2 is going to pop out a Tapcon screw!

Now, cracking and splitting--that's a concern. To mitigate that, I'd avoid severely warped 2x2s and I'd pre-drill pilot holes both when installing the strips and when installing the drywall.

Good call on electrical. That's not something you want to start planning after you've installed the XPS and furring strips. One or both will need modifications. It's best to account for that at the beginning.


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