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Old 04-19-2011, 08:39 AM   #1
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Hi, guys~

I'm just wondering...about how long do you reckon it'd take to build a 40,000 square foot, 4-story + basement manor? With the usual setbacks (weather, late people/materials, etc.), about how long would this take?

I know it won't take a few short months, but if this is some 20-year project I might rethink doing it.

And would you say this project could be done with a budget between $70mil (or below ) - $100mil max from complete start to finish? Any common 'surprise' expenses?

The design is inspired by, but not an exact replication of, the Chateau de Chambord. Below:





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Without. I just put that picture to show the side of it. Sorry for the confusion!

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Well with $1,750.00 a sq. ft. in your budget you’re off to a good start.

Let me know when you get started, I want to help.
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I don't know if it's in your budget, but -
I think you need higher "ramparts", more "crenelations", and
a couple of "draw-bridges".
Keep the moat - it may help to "ameliorate", potential, plumbing/drainage
problems. (the choice of crocodiles or alligators, is up to you)
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Kids say the darnedest things..... Gotta love their imaginations.
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Ok...f*** you too, then.

Just because you can't do something doesn't mean that no one else can.

I thought it would be rude to ask someone I'd actually be building with a time frame, but it seems that's the only way to get a real answer. But thanks anyway
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And with a budget of 70 -100 million $$$$ you thought a DIY web site was the best place to get this answer
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And with a budget of 70 -100 million $$$$ you thought a DIY web site was the best place to get this answer
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And with a budget of 70 -100 million $$$$ you thought a DIY web site was the best place to get this answer
Why not? This was affiliated with a general contractors' website, so I assumed contractors would be present here.

I didn't expect to find a behavioral analyst, though. And a solipsist one, at that.

Not to mention it was a relatively simple, should-be quick question for anyone with any knowledge of the subject.

But don't worry: I've learned my lesson. Forums are full of "wise"-asses with plenty of sarcasm and no answers. I see how it is.

Now that I see the uselessness of participating in this conversation, I'll cease participating in it.

...Although I do recognize this elementary gang pettiness and know that you'll all continue snickering over your baseless speculations while I'm not here to defend myself and set the record straight, but hey...what can I do?

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Why not? This was affiliated with a general contractors' website, so I assumed contractors would be present here.

I didn't expect to find a behavioral analyst, though.

Not to mention it was a relatively simple, should-be quick question for anyone with any knowledge of the subject.

But don't worry: I've learned my lesson. Forums are full of "wise"-asses with plenty of sarcasm and no answers. I see how it is.

Now that I see the uselessness of participating in this conversation, I'll cease participating in it.

...Although I do recognize this elementary gang pettiness and know that you'll all continue snickering over your baseless speculations while I'm not here to defend myself and set the record straight, but hey...what can I do?
The moat will be the easy part for you. It seems that you are an expert in shoveling the s**t.

Now make sure you do not respond as you have seen the uselessness of participating in this conversation.

But do have a good day
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That was fun. Gosh, I haven't heard the term Solipsism since I was in school.
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That is only 10 acres of space, but certainly substantial.

Your time frame and quality of work will determine the big item - cash flow, time and unknowns. Labor and materials are relatively minor, but certainly substantial.

The Chambord is certainly much larger and is a lower quality (but higher than U.S. standards) than the Taj Mahal that took much longer. The builder of the Taj died before all of the footings for the "Black Taj" across the river were put in.

Even the largest home in the U.S. (built by Vanderbilt in Asheville, NC), had to have a rail line installed for material. the design took 5 years and the construction took a similar amount of time. The Schoenbrune (sp?) Palace in
Vienna has 2,000 rooms and took decades to build and landscape, but they had not budget or cencern for costs and estimates.

That place you described is a "pipe dream" and not realistic today even for a rock star that might get financing from a shaky bank. Start at $2000/sf as an opener until the requirements are known.

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As a non-contractor I'm going out on a DIY limb here, but....
1). Planning:
-Get good CAD software, make up the plans w/materials estimates, etc yourself.
-Estimate the total time using the number of connections and average speed.
-To reduce costs, you'll want the exterior structure to be steel frame and concrete covered with marble finish. Mabye interior stained concrete floor.
-Check site plan for underground springs, Indian burial grounds, and/or spent nukes.
-Get code preapproval in writing.

2). Foundation:
-Crushed gravel for driveway. Lots of it.
-Have big rental earth moving equipment delivered, and go to town.
-Have lots of rebar delivered and go to town.
-Have lots of concrete poured. It will be easier than hauling bags of sakcrete in the back of the Aveo, trust me.
-Send wine and beer, lots of it, to the above companies at Christmas.

3). Structure:
-Get lots of wood delivered, and go to town.
-Those exteriour window openings and moulding features are all cookie cutter. Spend half a weekend making forms.
-Get lots of rebar and pipe for the hidden electrical and plumbing, and go to town.
-You remembered to send that wine, correct?
-Have lots of concrete poured for walls, with plumbing and electric hidden, but accessable. Mabye behind panels or removable block. Do one section at a time. You'll need to rent a crane pumper with a ladder to be able to climb up and see if it's right.

4). The Rest:
-Toss on a roof using a helicoptor with autopilot. Throw in some window and doors. Wire it up. There, easy Half a year tops.

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