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Old 12-11-2011, 01:54 AM   #1
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Building new home---Elevator installation?


Anyone know where I can get information on installing a small elevator in a new house? Basement to main to upstairs.
Any help is appreciated.

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Old 12-11-2011, 04:21 AM   #2
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Have you chosen a brand of elevator yet?

All the home elevator companies have architectural specs available on PDF files--also size of pump closet--depth of pit--it's all there----

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Hire an architect who will end up getting you one cheaper and better than you can yourself and provide all the drawings and supervision to get the thing past permits and inspection? Do not underestimate the costs of them alone.

Elevators, thank Goodness, are not yet DIY projects or sold at Box Stores. Come on Oh Mike. You were almost suggesting anybody could pick one they thought would work and install it from basement to all stories above. Come on buddy? The brand he found he likes is important in this discussion because of the walnut paneling on the inside?

I have, HAVE HAD, installed some elevators in the last few years in residences and the need will grow. Suggesting a near mortal builder or contractor could do one without architectural or engineering sign off is possible I guess. And with then those who inspect such things following close after? Saying if it was on the internet, I like it?

Homeowner will never, ever get it insured.

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Heavens--No--I was only suggesting that he could find the shaft and workings so he could work on his preliminary drawings----

The actual working drawings --those must be done by a pro---and the elevator install--the same---

I didn't mean to give the impression that elevator installing was a DIY project---Mike----
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Elevators, thank Goodness, are not yet DIY projects or sold at Box Stores. Come on Oh Mike. You were almost suggesting anybody could pick one they thought would work and install it from basement to all stories above. Come on buddy?
Homeowner will never, ever get it insured.
I don't know how you got the impression that the OP was going to DIY this--or from my three sentence response--that I thought a mere mortal would do the work----
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I don't know how you got the impression that the OP was going to DIY this--or from my three sentence response--that I thought a mere mortal would do the work----
Not ragging on you. Just thought it strange asking if the homeowner had picked a brand yet? Should a person pick all the things going into a new home and then ask someone to get the permits and make the inspections work? This guy may not even be thinking through what it takes to add an elevator shaft to the current home design he has in mind. You cannot just plunk them in like a dishwasher. Just thought you had the OP jumping the gun a bit. Sorry. Him exploring websites is not a bad idea. Leading him on to think adding an elevator without many adjustments seemed casual.
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Thanks for the answers.
No, I haven't got very much information on brands yet. I'm just trying to find out how much room is needed, power requirements, mounting framework, etc, etc.
Currently I am deployed to Afghanistan and can't get on to many websites to get good info.

Anyway I will be building a rural home when I get back to the states.

BTW: We are not zoned. No inspections (except electrical) are required.

Any help is appreciated,
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I framed three houses with elevators in them. The plans have them drawn in there with the rough openings. You HAVE to have the elevator company give you the blueprints for them with the EXACT rough openings and the EXACT framing detail. The rough openings HAVE to be square and plumb from basement to the top floor.

All three elevators were from different companies. All three had different framing details. Elevators are not a Diy'er install. If you can afford to build a new house...you can afford to have an elevator company install them.
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Sorry---I was please to think he had the forethought to design the elevator so it looked like it belonged in the house---

I am a devout believer in DIY---however,I also know this---a designer or architect is worth his pay---

And an elevator should be installed and serviced by a company that specializes in that----

The construction of a typical home elevator shaft is done by a framing carpenter--to the design of the elevator ---

Most folks make preliminary drawings before visiting an architect---for that purpose the elevator companies specs will give the home owner an idea of the rough amount of space to allow for the shaft--and workings----Mike---
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Thanks for the answers.
No, I haven't got very much information on brands yet. I'm just trying to find out how much room is needed, power requirements, mounting framework, etc, etc.
Currently I am deployed to Afghanistan and can't get on to many websites to get good info.

Anyway I will be building a rural home when I get back to the states.

BTW: We are not zoned. No inspections (except electrical) are required.

Any help is appreciated,
MG
This is one example of what the plans would look like from one elevator company.

http://www.residentialelevators.com/...HORHP7_S14.pdf

Couple more.

http://remihomeelevators.com/www/docs/101.41

http://www.residentialelevators.com/traction_specs.htm

http://remihomeelevators.com/downloa...ROUGHFRAME.pdf
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BTW: We are not zoned. No inspections (except electrical) are required.
Nonsense. Of course you are subject. Just look at the fire codes for the State to start. The fire department will be on you like flies to flypaper if you try to build what they basically consider, and they should, a cold air draft from basement through all stories. And you will never get home insurance without doing this right.
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Do you think a rural volunteer FD is going to check my house plans?
They are not even in the loop.
But I will be asking my insurance company anyway.
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HI Gregg and thank you for your service.
If at all possible though please have it designed by a professional so it will at least meet code.

IRC 2009 would be just dandy. Then go to town building the thing.
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Much obliged, Andy.
It will adhere to all codes.
I want it safe.
We're just trying to think ahead.
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I was able to find some residential elevator outfits online that were not blocked.
Most are blocked, though.
But none gave any ideas as to what the cost could be.
Can anyone give me some estimate as to the prices of the units?

Much obliged,
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