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Old 07-15-2013, 06:50 AM   #1
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Building 10' wide in-swinging 6' tall gate?


Looking for the best/proper way to do this.
  • I live in Maryland (location), building 6' tall privacy fence
  • 1x4 cedar dog-ear pickets
  • Posts are 6x6x10 PT buried 4' filled with 1101 Quikrete
  • Building Dual 5' gates
Because of the angle and slope of the driveway, and the line the fence will be run, I won't have the clearance to swing out, so I need to swing in instead.

Is this the right way to do this? How would you do it?

I was going to possibly run the hinge bolts all the way through the 6x6, but I don't think that will be possible this way.





Running from the house to the driveway, about 3' back from the driveway.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:49 PM   #2
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I guess we can play "I Spy" for a couple minutes...

Man, those 6x6 posts in a ~12" x 12" x 4' hole take a lot of concrete.

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Not really sure about the answer to your question but just thought I would say good job on your fence so far. I just put my posts in the ground last weekend and I wish I was able to get them 4 feet into the ground, the deepest I could get was 3 feet and some only down 2 feet because if shale rock.
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The gate hardware I have seen and used is as follows:

The post gets a bolt lagged in or all the way through. The bolt has about a 3/4" round dowel which you want pointing up.

The gate gets a big strap with a female for the round dowel to go into.

There are two of these on each gate/post combo.

You can adjust the bolts for plumb if your post is not plumb.

You can also adjust the bolts in and out in order to get the desired distance between the gate and the striker.

Sometimes guys will put a wheel on the end of the gate.

It is also common to have a pipe in the ground/gravel/concrete to drop a pin in to lock the gate.
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I went to Lowe's last night, bought a $30 5 lb box of 2" screws. Left them in the cart.

Cedar pickets -- I didn't think about the color variations at first. Ah well, it's going to be a rental, and it's all going to gray anyways.

I will have to check out that gate hardware...

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Keep in mind I'm no carpenter or master fence builder. Just a weekend DIY'er (Well, lots of weeknights too) with a bunch of tools.

I have everything finished EXCEPT leveling out the ground under the fence with crushed stone.

I noticed at the fence place all their gates were A-Frames and not Z-Frames like we're used to. I asked them about it, they said A-Frame is the way to go. I have nothing to back this up, but, I'll give it a shot. We'll see what happens.










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Look better once I get the crushed stone back down.










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Keep in mind I'm no carpenter or master fence builder. Just a weekend DIY'er (Well, lots of weeknights too) with a bunch of tools.

I have everything finished EXCEPT leveling out the ground under the fence with crushed stone.

I noticed at the fence place all their gates were A-Frames and not Z-Frames like we're used to. I asked them about it, they said A-Frame is the way to go. I have nothing to back this up, but, I'll give it a shot. We'll see what happens.
I love cedar so much better than pressure treated.
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I had a 6' cedar fence professionally installed years ago. The gate they used was also an A-frame. Have not had any problems with it whatsoever. My neighbor built his own gate and used mine as a reference so he also built an A-frame. They are nice and strong.
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Good to know. Is this the "new" way to do it I wonder?
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So for some reason, as facing the rear of the fence (last picture), the right side gate has started to sag. I don't know if it's the gate, the hinges, or what. The left side gate uses one-piece hinges. They gave me 3-piece hinges on the right side. Not sure if that's it or what. Pretty annoying. I don't feel any looseness when I "lift up" on the gate, so I don't know where the sag came from. I will try to loosen up the bolts and see if I can tilt it back correct, or something.
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With the new crushed stone.

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As those pressure treated posts start to dry out, they will bow a little with the weight hanging on them like that. After a few months you will probably need to re-adjust the hinges to level again.
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Ah, scumbag pressure treated wood. I will have to do that then, thanks!
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