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Old 02-23-2011, 08:21 PM   #16
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Thank you everyone for you kind responses, opinions, and feedback. I'm not trying to say I thought this would be 'a great first time DIY' project, but, I didn't think it was impossible to consider either. My biggest concern was the floor joists running perpendicular to the plan I had but you've answered this already.

My wife and I have considered many options as it pertains to where we wanted the stairs to be but never considered the idea of rotating them 90/180 degrees as mentioned above. This changes everything as it gives us a lot more options so we'll have to get back to the drawing board. One thing we aren't keen on is having a door down into the basement. Because we have kids who are 4 and younger we want to dedicate the basement area to a playroom of sorts and didn't want to have them closing the door etc; Any thoughts on this? I'm not sure what this means resale wise but it just seems cool

The contractor who is building a home across the street from us mentioned something about needing a foundation at the top and bottom of stairs?! This kind of hit me by surprise and seemed silly as the basement floor is concrete would I really need to build a foundation around the base of the stairs?


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Old 02-23-2011, 09:26 PM   #17
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"would I really need to build a foundation around the base of the stairs?" ---- only if the stair wall is bearing (carrying) the floor joists above.

Here are some configurations, pp.46: http://books.google.com/books?id=jQr...stairs&f=false

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Old 02-24-2011, 10:44 AM   #18
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Gary thanks for the help! I don't anticipate there being a stair wall on the open side, especially if I reconsider the layout of the stairs by rotating them 90 at the top as suggested earlier.

Right away, I just want to get this started and move forward. This doesn't mean that I'm trying to round corners or go cheap, but I just envisioned a simple stair case down to the basement - nothing fancy. But in the back of my mind if by adding a stair wall and door will help when it comes time to sell, I may just do this. "basements" (in the traditional sense) don't exist in this area at all and so its a rare addition. Luckily the contractor who finished our house saw the empty/unused space and framed it out.

If only he had added the stairs in the first place, but instead he decided to carpet the downstairs bathroom ... sigh ...

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:08 AM   #19
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kind of funny, but I watched a renovation program this week (Renovation Realities) and the project was exactly this, put a stairway in because none existed. I kept thinking, who would build a house with a basement and not design stairs to get to it?? weird..

anyways, good luck, would like to see pics as you do this...

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The home sat unfinished for a few months as the original builder went bankrupt... so the bank hired a contractor to finish it and he was nice enough to add the basement as it wasn't in the original plans, but I suppose adding the stairs was over budget ... but man the carpet in the bathroom is killer frustrating!

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Old 02-24-2011, 03:15 PM   #21
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here is a set of stairs that I built. the opening wasn't long or wide enough, so I opened it up further. The stringers are 2x12 and 3/4" plywood treads. I then finished them with reclaimed barn boards from the house that were planed down and glued & screwed to the plywood treads and directly glued & screwed as risers. the bullnose was made by adding a piece of tread material to the underside of the new tread and (you guessed it) glue & screw. then route for the rounded shape.

then stain and poly.

these stairs are about 42" wide and are a huge improvement over what we had.

I had to add the landing in order to achieve a balanced riser height in the amount of total length of the stair opening. as well as to have the turn at the bottom.

my stairs run parallel with the ceiling joists which meant little alteration when widening and lengthening the opening.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...z/SAM_0209.jpg
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before anyone says anything, railing still to be built...

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Also check te circular stairs, much neater and easier to install, I am also considering the circular stairs. They come pre built as per the size and you just install.

Saves lot of space and looks elegant, search google for circular stairs.

I am yet still researching on the size of the circle and what If have to take some big stuff down like a queen size matterss or a frig, will they go thru my circular stair.

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You could always buys a prefab spiral staircase...
You hole would be smaller...

http://www.wagnerspiralstairs.com/pa...iralstairs.htm

But, here is the detail I used to frame my new stair case opening.
(This is for reference only. I take no responsibility in the sizing or method of installation. You should consult a structural engineer before proceeding)


Finally, for building the stairs, I used the GoPro universal stair bracket...
http://www.goproconstruction.com/gallery.html


After a few failed attempts at cutting the stringers the process was a cake walk.

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