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Old 04-29-2013, 02:17 PM   #1
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I am a homeowner not a professional contractor, but I need some help and advice please. I am about to undertake having my home bricked (it currently has siding) I was told we need a freeze board that brick goes behind for the last course close to the soffitt. That requires a facia board, bed molding etc from understanding. Would this product work in lieu of the freeze board?
http://www.exteriorsolutions.com/p-2...nyl-8pack.aspx

I see several benefits from it due to not having to paint, no rot, and there's only one piece to install instead of several.

Any other tips, hints, pitfalls to look at for would be greatly appreciated. I have a good mason who did the foundation and steps for me when we built in 05 (wanted to brick then, but wife wanted siding like her parents ) so I trust his work. Just need some extra guidance on certain things. He'll be doing the addition to footer and tying it together with rebar. Thanks in advance


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Was your foundation built with 12 inch block with a shelf angle to take the dead load of brick? Building with brick has to be considered when poring the footings and the foundation wall. Im sure you must know this but just thought id throw it out there. If it was, you need secondary protection on the sheathed wall, proper flashing and weeps at the base, cleanout of the cavity space, and wall ties installed as you go up every 4th course.

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Was your foundation built with 12 inch block with a shelf angle to take the dead load of brick? Building with brick has to be considered when poring the footings and the foundation wall. Im sure you must know this but just thought id throw it out there. If it was, you need secondary protection on the sheathed wall, proper flashing and weeps at the base, cleanout of the cavity space, and wall ties installed as you go up every 4th course.
As I mentioned I'm not a mason, nor am I trying to pretend I know a 1/3 of what I need to know, but the person I used to build the foundation is doing this work too, and we discussed setting it up for bricking in the future (built in '05). Would you mind elaborating on this? Could state codes also leave certain things open for interpretation? I'm in SC. I know the wall ties will of course be used, but I'm almost certain he said every 3rd. We have to extend the footer about 8-10" and he has to drill the current and set rebar to attach.
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Technically, you don't need a freeze board at the top, it just makes it easier on the brick mason. It means that his cut's don't need to be as tidy. I've done several homes where we ran a canted "soldier" course against the fascia with the cut's below. You just need to be pickier about your cuts. That being said, I personally like the looks of a freeze board.

As for the wall ties, you technically only need one for every 2 sq. feet of wall, so assuming 16" stud centers, every 18" of height. THat's about 6 courses on Queen/King size brick, and 7.666 courses on mods/standards.
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Technically, you don't need a freeze board at the top, it just makes it easier on the brick mason. It means that his cut's don't need to be as tidy. I've done several homes where we ran a canted "soldier" course against the fascia with the cut's below. You just need to be pickier about your cuts. That being said, I personally like the looks of a freeze board.

As for the wall ties, you technically only need one for every 2 sq. feet of wall, so assuming 16" stud centers, every 18" of height. THat's about 6 courses on Queen/King size brick, and 7.666 courses on mods/standards.
Thanks for the info. Have you ever done one after the build similar to what I'm looking at? What can you tell me good/bad/ or otherwise about it? I want to use that dentil molding I linked, but I don't think it can be properly cut to up a gable like you would crown molding. It's a hollow backed piece so I'm worried it won't seam up correctly.
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Thanks for the info. Have you ever done one after the build similar to what I'm looking at? What can you tell me good/bad/ or otherwise about it? I want to use that dentil molding I linked, but I don't think it can be properly cut to up a gable like you would crown molding. It's a hollow backed piece so I'm worried it won't seam up correctly.
Absolutely, and once the siding's off, it's no different than a new construction. You certainly will need a brick ledge to set it on though, but it sounds like your mason already has that covered.

As for the freeze board, I'd likely keep it simpler than that dentil molding. You would need some backing nailed up before the brick was installed, generally held off the house 4-5", based on actual brick depth. The freeze board is nailed to the backing once the brick is set. There's plenty of composite/hybrid "lumber" available now-a-days that wouldn't require much for maintenance............
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You have posted no pictures or details of how your openings like windows will be handled, and openings in brick veneer have to be properly flashed to redirect water to the exterior. It sounds like your Mason knows his stuff though, so that's a good thing.
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He'll be doing the addition to footer and tying it together with rebar.
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