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Old 08-11-2009, 12:37 AM   #16
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Funny you should mention access the attic...here's the closest thing I have currently:



I have NO idea what the backstory is on this one...

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Chaos, do you have access to the attic? My first recomendation would be to go in the attic and look at what you have above. Since you said there was a fire a while back, look for water damage. Maybe when they had the fire all they did was repaint to get rid of any water stains. If no attic, go with the whole idea above so you can see whats up there. However, try to do it in an area that is not too bad. That way you can see what you are dealing with before you making hole in a bad area, and getting in over your head before you even start.
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Funny you should mention access the attic...here's the closest thing I have currently:



I have NO idea what the backstory is on this one...
Captain, It appears you haven't been up there yet. That is a beadboard access cover that is held in place by gravity. No screws or hidden fasteners.

Get on your stepladder and just push the Cover directly UP, and you can get up in the Attic. Happy Hunting, watch where you step or you will have more ceiling to patch.


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Your wiring that you identified as Rigid is FMC (Flexible Metallic Conduit)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conduit

This is IMO the best wiring method because the most common residential FMC (1/2")can hold nine 12awg conductors so wiring modifications are easier than with the more common (cheaper) NM cable (Romex)
http://homerenovations.about.com/od/...artromexnm.htm

note the Link is not correct on the source of the name "romex" The correct answer is that it was invented by General Wire & cable Co (now called General Cable) in 1922 at the companies lab in Rome NY. Since it was a brand new product with no listing the product was introduced as Romex for Rome Experimental and the name stuck.

I've taken out some old 1940's Romex with super brittle rubber insulation covered by a crumbly woven fabric outer jacket. I can't imagine how bad some of the original 1920's Romex must look by now. There must still be some to be discovered in old houses. The name Romex is now owned by
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:38 PM   #18
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Well, don't I feel like a horse's ass . Will definitely give that a shot and tell you what I find.

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Captain, It appears you haven't been up there yet. That is a beadboard access cover that is held in place by gravity. No screws or hidden fasteners.

Get on your stepladder and just push the Cover directly UP, and you can get up in the Attic. Happy Hunting, watch where you step or you will have more ceiling to patch.



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Yeah, be sure to step on the top of the ceiling joists and not on the plaster or you'll be looking at a bigger repair and some "down time" if you straddle a joist (OUCH). 'Ya know CaptChaos, you sure resemble Dom DeLouise. Are you and Elvis hanging out and partying together??? Best of luck....
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