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Old 10-14-2010, 09:00 PM   #1
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I need to remove the shower wall seen in the photos I've uploaded. I'm not sure it's a bearing wall. Reasons I believe it may be are 1.) It's directly below a 2x10 beam, 2.) In looking at span tables, my 2x8 joists may be too long wthout support. If it is providing support, it's likely just on the right corner as sort of a post. Reasons it may not be are 1.) There is a perpendicular wall to the left which is definitely a bearing wall and would provide support for the beam, 2.) The wall looks like it was added to the right of the perpendicular bearing wall (i.e. the 4" block are only butted up against it, not tied in), 3.) Part of the wall is glass block, and 4.) There is about 1" of mortar on top of the wall that seem like it was just filled in. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:35 PM   #2
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Looks like a bearing built-up beam to me. Waste of a lot of lumber and time if it didn't have a function, don't you think? Do not remove it.

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Old 10-15-2010, 06:13 AM   #3
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It's obviously a built-up beam. My question is does the 4 ft section containing the glass block provide any support. The foundation wall runs from the left under that beam providing support until it gets to the glass block where it turns 90 deg. I only want to remove the 4 ft section that contains the glass block.
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Old 10-15-2010, 03:11 PM   #4
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I'd have to see it with my own eyes to actually make a call like that. That's not the kind of ruling you can make via pictures, particularly with masonry. Plus the legal standard of care for a structural assessment like that is to perform a site inspection.
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Old 10-15-2010, 03:21 PM   #5
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(A) I agree you need a visit from a structural engineer

(B) Your built up beam has a butt joint at the corner of the wall you want to remove, right? If you take away that wall, how will that butt joint react? I'm not an engineer, just a DIY-er now fixing unsupported butt joints in my own built up beam. If you can avoid that problem, do so. Consultation from the engineers is cheap insurance.

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Old 10-15-2010, 05:48 PM   #6
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Regardless of whether that block wall was deliberately installed to support the built up beam above it, it certainly looks like it is supporting at least some load. If you remove it, the built up beam needs to support the entire load of the ceiling above. You therefore need an analysis to determine if the built up beam is capable of supporting the entire load without an intermediate support. That type of analysis is what you pay a structural engineer to perform.
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:51 PM   #7
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The beam doesn't have a butt joint--it's solid. The foundation wall has a corner at the left of the glass block. The wall I want to remove is butted (single vertical mortar joint bottom to top) to the foundation wall at that point.
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oh, that outter 2x10 is continuous all the way across? In the pic it looks like that 2x10 is butted. Sorry
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The only part of the wall I want to remove that could be supporting this is the right top, otherwise it's bearing on the glass block, right. So, what if I get two jack posts. Put one immediately to the right of the wall I want to remove as a temporary support. Take down the wall. Put the second jack post where the beam would have rested on the wall. Remove the first post. I can deal with having a post there.
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That's just dirt from behind the paneling that was there that makes the 2x10 look like it has a seam.

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