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Old 09-10-2012, 10:08 AM   #16
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"pretty sure the deck builder put bolts into the wet concrete"..."I'm pretty sure this gun is not loaded" I bet you were pretty sure he had installed those beam connecters properly too. " how would i resecure them" lets not build the bridge B4 the chicken crosses the road...no thas not it...lets not put the horse in the cart till the cows come home...hmmm. Don't worry about that unless the posts are moving, there, that did it. It may be too late to lock the barn door after the horses has been stolen, but you can get the horse back and then lock the door. Then hang the horse thief from the hay loft. Not enuff room under deck to hang the incompetant builder. Even using Simpson Strong Tie Deck builder Hanger. There are ways resecure posts, drilling into footing anchoring new connectors, etc. ( I told me not to worry about that yet, I never listen to me.) I'll forget all about that other thread, I think it died restfully in its sleep anyway.
"...the soil. its all clay..." gumbo clay? That swells and softens and moves when its wet and then shrinks and moves and hardens like concrete when its dry? That's what we got here, neighbors 16X12 shed on 12" high 6x6's on 30" deep concrete pilings settled 6" on one end, one post tilited out 4", still tightly secure to footing. Does all kinds of weird things to house foundations, you can have secure career, make big bucks and impress women in the foundation repair field around here.
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This is a picture of my Simpson Zmax ABA Adjustable Post Base with Standoff.



As you can see, it is secured to a j-bolt with a washer and nut. What I found is that even if they are tightened down, I could still induce small lateral movements if I hit the base with a 3 pound mash hammer.

If I had to replace my posts, my approach would be:

1. install temporary support
2. remove nails from the post
3. remove post (cut in half if necessary)
4. replace post base with Simpson brand and secure it with a washer/nut
5. cut new post to proper height
6. apply seal on the top and bottom of the post (or apply flashing with adhesive back)
7. install Simpson post to joist cap
8. use hot dipped galvanized nails to secure post base and post cap

But I think you have limited space underneath like mine so installing a temporary support and working there would be pretty arduous.

I think if the beam was twisting on me, I would:

1. make sure all joists are nailed to the beam using Simpson brackets
2. use all nail holes on that post base to secure post to beam
3. look to install a doubled up blocking between beams
4. monitor every year to see any changes
5. re-grade to drain water away from the footing area
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:40 PM   #18
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Windowguy, and with all respect to thumbs, "If I had to replace my posts, my approach would be:"
1. Do whatever thumb says.
2. Repeat step one.
All the other steps are just ditto marks. That's a heck of a deck, thumbs.
Big problem with decks around here lately, possums draggin 3 pound sledges under there and hittin on the connectors, posts knocked outta line as much as eighth of an inch. That's a right purty Zmax ABA Adjustable Post Base with Standoff you got there. You got that mounted on a pedestal by the deck I see so folks can see and admire it.
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